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Davie
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Post by Davie » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:42 pm

H Paul,
I know it is a bummer when the informant does not know his grannies maiden name.
Is ther a Wallace connection here?


For me, being a Weegie, it was the earliest DC I have seen with Wylie and Lochhead as the undertakers.
Which brings to mind the auld Empire gag.

Comedian: "Ma Faither caws me Wylie and Lochheid"
Straight man: "Whit diz he caw ye Wylie and Lochheid fawr?"
Comedian: "He says Ah'm drivin' him tae his grave"

They don't write them like that oanymer.
Davie

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Post by LesleyB » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:16 pm

Hi Davie
I've an 1855 death with Wylie & Lochhead as the undertakers: Susan McNicol, aged just over 1year old, poor wee thing, died of smallpox in Dunbarton Road. Died 4.30am and buried 4pm on the same day.
  • Wylie & Lochhead
    Date Wylie & Lochhead informed of death:26/02/1855
    Name of those who paid for the funeral:Daniel McNicol
    Name of deceased:Susan McNicol
    Address for invoice:114 Dumbarton Road, Anderston
    Coffin size:35"
    Shroud provided: Yes
    Number of hearses/horses:2
    Driver/ushers/bearers/attendants provided: Yes
    Location of grave:S/Necropolis
    Date/time of burial:monday 26/02/1855 at 4pm
Best wishes
Lesley

Davie
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Post by Davie » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:51 pm

Brilliant Leslie,
Where did so much detail come from?
I am aye interested in Glasgow firms.
Have several company histories among my wee collection of tomes.
Davie

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:06 am

Hi Davie
The Wylie & Lochhead records at kept over at Glasgow University Archives Services (GUAS) Combined with her 1855 death entry there was quite a bit of information to be gleaned.

What is truly amazing, I think, is that they got the whole thing organised and completed in under 12hrs, including horses, coffin and everything. Pretty amazing. It must have been a very traumatic day for the parents (my 2nd gr grandparents) but at least it sounds as if Wylie & Lochhead were very efficient.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by Davie » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:11 am

Hi Lesley,
Ah didnae intend tae be callous ther.
I had typed oot my reply because I was so interested in the info.
Tried tae edit ma post but couldnie.
Goad! a 35 inch coffin.
Wid that no brek yer heart.
Davie

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Post by LesleyB » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:25 am

Hi Davie
I'd agree it is fascinating info. It is details like the 35inch coffin which does just hit you. I expect it was, sadly, a regular enough occurance for many parents back then. If you have any of your folks who were buried by Wylie & Lochhead, I think it woudl be well worthwhile going to GUAS to see the books there. See also:
http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/collects/ ... wylie.html
for more info, but expect you may know most of this already.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by Davie » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:33 am

Hi Lesley
Thanks for the link.
I have never used the archives at the Uni, though have borrowed many books frae the library.
Got stuck on ther web page for over an hour last night and came up with several interesting items including this one.
http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/gghb/coll ... llpox.html

It is interesting to find information like that.
I am now on the look out for similar in Dunbarton, Perth and Stirling.
Like most of us doing family research, I have come across DCs where three members of the same family have died within months of each other, from the same illness.
Would be good to find out more gen other than just what is on the DC.
Thanks again
Davie

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Post by Keatley » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:05 pm

Thanks everyone for your help on this one.
Just found another 3rd Gt Grandmother with no surname of her mother on the DC!!...How lucky am I????...They don't make it easy do they!!!

Jessie McEwan was born in Perth, and her date of birth changes through the census. Do you think the age is 59 or 69 on the DC?
Her last child was born in 1874, making her either 47 or 57!!(depending on age on DC)
She is shown as widow of John McArthur, but all 7 of their children were shown as illegitimate, was it common practise to assume marriage?

I cant find any Jessie/Janet McEwan born Perthshire between 1817-1827 with parents James & Janet

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-957

Cheers,
Paul

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Post by AndrewP » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:10 pm

Keatley wrote:Jessie McEwan was born in Perth, and her date of birth changes through the census. Do you think the age is 59 or 69 on the DC?
59 - see the year for how the registrar wrote a 6.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by DavidWW » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:49 pm

Davie wrote:Hi Lesley
Thanks for the link.
I have never used the archives at the Uni, though have borrowed many books frae the library.
Got stuck on ther web page for over an hour last night and came up with several interesting items including this one.
http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/gghb/coll ... llpox.html

It is interesting to find information like that.
I am now on the look out for similar in Dunbarton, Perth and Stirling.
Like most of us doing family research, I have come across DCs where three members of the same family have died within months of each other, from the same illness.
Would be good to find out more gen other than just what is on the DC.
Thanks again
Davie
See also viewtopic.php?t=440&highlight=smallpox+register

David