I think also sometimes the poorhouse maintained graves in a local graveyard. In one burial register for Oldmachar Cemetery in Aberdeen, I have come across names where the last address was given as the poor house and noted next to the entry was the name of the governor of the poorhouse. Unfortunately, there are no lair numbers in that particular register so there's no way of knowing if they are buried in the same grave.
If the Fife Archives have burial registers for that time, it may be worth taking a look to see if there's any information held in them like that.
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I have been reading this thread since the beginning, and I must be either a bit thick or slow (I won't go into my navy nickname
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I thought of those folk who died in the poorhouse and ended up on the anatomists table. Then just a few minutes ago I thought, wait ye daft sod, you had lang deid yins that died in the poorhouse!
That got me thinking, I wonder if their rellies collected them or did they end up on the table too?
I have been reading this thread since the beginning, and I must be either a bit thick or slow (I won't go into my navy nickname
)I thought of those folk who died in the poorhouse and ended up on the anatomists table. Then just a few minutes ago I thought, wait ye daft sod, you had lang deid yins that died in the poorhouse!
That got me thinking, I wonder if their rellies collected them or did they end up on the table too?
Stewie
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Yes Stew, I thought the same thing. I had way too many people spend their last days in the poorhouse. A lot of my mother's family were poor Irish, but it wasn't unheard of on my father's side either.
I suppose it is a gruesome thought, and a very very sad end, and I am sure the still living would have felt just terrible about it if they knew what happened to their family members after death.
But history has shown us that the medical profession badly needed cadavers in order to learn more about the human body, to cure and prevent disease and repair injury, which may have ultimately enabled all of us to be here today. And isn't it an amazing thought that maybe some of our own assisted in that?
Nina
I suppose it is a gruesome thought, and a very very sad end, and I am sure the still living would have felt just terrible about it if they knew what happened to their family members after death.
But history has shown us that the medical profession badly needed cadavers in order to learn more about the human body, to cure and prevent disease and repair injury, which may have ultimately enabled all of us to be here today. And isn't it an amazing thought that maybe some of our own assisted in that?
Nina
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Hi,
My GF's sister died at Barnhill Poor House Oct. 10, 1918 of Lobar Pneumonia. The witness was her mom. Would records of her burial still exist? She was single & 26 when she died.
Her DC gives her residence as 246 Garscube Road, is that part of the Poor House?
dennis
My GF's sister died at Barnhill Poor House Oct. 10, 1918 of Lobar Pneumonia. The witness was her mom. Would records of her burial still exist? She was single & 26 when she died.
Her DC gives her residence as 246 Garscube Road, is that part of the Poor House?
dennis
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Ninaninatoo wrote:Yes Stew... But history has shown us that the medical profession badly needed cadavers in order to learn more about the human body, to cure and prevent disease and repair injury, which may have ultimately enabled all of us to be here today. And isn't it an amazing thought that maybe some of our own assisted in that?
Nina
I forgot to reply to this, It was never a problem in my mind, as a former student nurse I understand the need, and what "was available" at the time. Burke and Hare comes to mind!
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My great great grandmother passed in Glasgow in 1856 and it has on her death cert Buriel Ground Gorbols Glasgow as certified by Alex Ledian (very blured so surname may be wrong) then it has Inspector of the Poor.
I assume it was a paupers burial, my question is what was an Inspector of the Poor.
Sounds all a bit grim to me , they must have had it so hard in those days.How well we live today compared to then. I have found the history part as exciting and sad as finding my family and yes I have shed a few (sorry a lot) of tears for people long gone but now thanks to the research we can do they will not be forgotten.
Audrey
I assume it was a paupers burial, my question is what was an Inspector of the Poor.
Sounds all a bit grim to me , they must have had it so hard in those days.How well we live today compared to then. I have found the history part as exciting and sad as finding my family and yes I have shed a few (sorry a lot) of tears for people long gone but now thanks to the research we can do they will not be forgotten.
Audrey
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Dennis wrote:
Regards,
Anne H
I'm not familiar with the area, but I don't believe that 246 Garscube Road would have been part of Barnhill Poor House...hopefully, someone will correct me if I'm wrong. If you do a Google you'll find some interesting information on the Poorhouse. This is interesting, http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhous ... khouse.htmMy GF's sister died at Barnhill Poor House Oct. 10, 1918 of Lobar Pneumonia. The witness was her mom. Would records of her burial still exist? She was single & 26 when she died.
Her DC gives her residence as 246 Garscube Road, is that part of the Poor House?
Regards,
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Hi Audrey
The Inspector of the Poor was just that. An official appointed by the Parish to check on the circumstances of all claimants.
They would visit them and enquire into their circumstances. The original 'Means Test'. They had to make up a report for the committee to make the decisions on whether to offer support and if the person could stay out in the community, usually living with a son or daughter who would receive some financial assistance. In the 1850's my G-G-aunt was receiving 1/6 from the Board. When her daughter's circumstances changed she was no longer able to look after her mother and actually had to move away from the district. The Inspector visited again and recommended that she be admitted to Barnhill where she lived for several years before her death.
Some of the reords make fascinating reading and can be quite lengthy. Another relative took up 3 pages of entries and we found out about another child who was unable to look after their father because they already looking after his father-in-law.
Hope this clarifies things.
Russell
The Inspector of the Poor was just that. An official appointed by the Parish to check on the circumstances of all claimants.
They would visit them and enquire into their circumstances. The original 'Means Test'. They had to make up a report for the committee to make the decisions on whether to offer support and if the person could stay out in the community, usually living with a son or daughter who would receive some financial assistance. In the 1850's my G-G-aunt was receiving 1/6 from the Board. When her daughter's circumstances changed she was no longer able to look after her mother and actually had to move away from the district. The Inspector visited again and recommended that she be admitted to Barnhill where she lived for several years before her death.
Some of the reords make fascinating reading and can be quite lengthy. Another relative took up 3 pages of entries and we found out about another child who was unable to look after their father because they already looking after his father-in-law.
Hope this clarifies things.
Russell
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Anne H, thank you; that is a fascinating siteAnne H wrote:Dennis wrote:I'm not familiar with the area, but I don't believe that 246 Garscube Road would have been part of Barnhill Poor House...hopefully, someone will correct me if I'm wrong. If you do a Google you'll find some interesting information on the Poorhouse. This is interesting, http://www.institutions.org.uk/workhous ... khouse.htmMy GF's sister died at Barnhill Poor House Oct. 10, 1918 of Lobar Pneumonia. The witness was her mom. Would records of her burial still exist? She was single & 26 when she died.
Her DC gives her residence as 246 Garscube Road, is that part of the Poor House?
Regards,
Anne H
BTW can you tell me if there is a building at that address 246 Garscube Road?dennis
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Hi Dennis,
I have a few addresses on Garscube Road where some of my Russell's lived and when I "google" all I come up with are industrial type estates, schools, medical facilities, etc.
Your 246 Garscube Road seems to be a Cash & Carry Wholesalers located at Unit 1/Barratt Trading Estate, 230-260 Garscube Road, Glasgow, so if this is the same area from the 1800's it looks like 246 has long gone. I don't think we'll find any of our ancestors homes...somewhat disappointing since I'd love to get pictures!
Regards,
Anne
I have a few addresses on Garscube Road where some of my Russell's lived and when I "google" all I come up with are industrial type estates, schools, medical facilities, etc.
Your 246 Garscube Road seems to be a Cash & Carry Wholesalers located at Unit 1/Barratt Trading Estate, 230-260 Garscube Road, Glasgow, so if this is the same area from the 1800's it looks like 246 has long gone. I don't think we'll find any of our ancestors homes...somewhat disappointing since I'd love to get pictures!
Regards,
Anne