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Bertha
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Post by Bertha » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:36 pm

:oops: OOPS! Off course I meant 1869.
I did mean to say in my earlier post that I had found my info on the NAS site.
Carole its quite easy to do. I just stuck the culprits name in the search box and it came up with some of the items they held with that name then scrolled down until I found the appropriate one. Also, try the Scotsman Archives I found a very good report on the court proceedings on there.
It still puzzles me why there is no RCE in the margin of the bigamous marriage but as I said, next time at NRH I will do a proper search for one.
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Bertha
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Nelson/Neilson,Wood,McDonald,Baillie - East Lothian
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casserole
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Post by casserole » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:31 pm

Thank you, Bertha.

I have just spent an enjoyable time on the NAS site and there he is. My James MURPHY tried for bigamy at the High Court, Glasgow in 1881 and imprisoned for 12 months. A bit more to add to the family history!

Off to search the Scotsman archives now.

All the best,
Carole
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DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:32 pm

casserole wrote:Thank you, Bertha.

I have just spent an enjoyable time on the NAS site and there he is. My James MURPHY tried for bigamy at the High Court, Glasgow in 1881 and imprisoned for 12 months. A bit more to add to the family history!

Off to search the Scotsman archives now.

All the best,
Carole
There you go !!

David
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ninatoo
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Post by ninatoo » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:58 am

The bigamous marriage in my tree has an RCE, but it isn't listed at NAS, and I have searched at The Scotsman without success. Mary Hislop Carson had married Andrew Fleming in 1905 in Blythswood, Glasgow when she was still married to Charles Edward Kidd (married 1896 in Ayr).

Can anyone help me find out more, or is there really nothing else for this case?

Nina
Researching: Easton ( Renfrewshire, Dunbarton and Glasgow), Corr (Londonderry and Glasgow), Carson (Co. Down, Irvine, Ayrshire and Glasgow), Logan (Londonderry and Glasgow)
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DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:13 pm

ninatoo wrote:The bigamous marriage in my tree has an RCE, but it isn't listed at NAS, and I have searched at The Scotsman without success. Mary Hislop Carson had married Andrew Fleming in 1905 in Blythswood, Glasgow when she was still married to Charles Edward Kidd (married 1896 in Ayr).

Can anyone help me find out more, or is there really nothing else for this case?

Nina
Have you emailed NAS?

The procedure was that, after conviction in the High Court of Justiciary, details were sent to the Registrar General so that an entry could be made in the RCE with that cross-referenced on the marriage register entry.

I'm not certain what dates are covered by the NAS on line catalogue.

David
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Bertha
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Post by Bertha » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:17 pm

Your Welcome Carole.
Bertha
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Nelson/Neilson,Wood,McDonald,Baillie - East Lothian
McLaren,Ross,Kelly,McEwan,Nicholson,Price/Pryce,Telfer,Robertson, Dickson/Dixon, Gibson,Niven Edinburgh
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DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:05 pm

ninatoo wrote:The bigamous marriage in my tree has an RCE, but it isn't listed at NAS, and I have searched at The Scotsman without success. Mary Hislop Carson had married Andrew Fleming in 1905 in Blythswood, Glasgow when she was still married to Charles Edward Kidd (married 1896 in Ayr).

Can anyone help me find out more, or is there really nothing else for this case?

Nina
The reason that there's no record at NAS, is that she was never proseucted, - the 1905 marriage register entry shows the RCE stamp that there would have been in the case of a prosecution :!:

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ninatoo
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Post by ninatoo » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:13 pm

Hi David,

Sorry, I am a bit confused by your answer. The record did have a RCE stamp on it saying BIGAMY in big letters like that and a date...vol. number etc I think. So if it had the stamp, does it mean she was or was not prosecuted? And if not, what would the possible reasons be, when she was clearly a bigamist?

Nina
Researching: Easton ( Renfrewshire, Dunbarton and Glasgow), Corr (Londonderry and Glasgow), Carson (Co. Down, Irvine, Ayrshire and Glasgow), Logan (Londonderry and Glasgow)
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Post by DavidWW » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:48 pm

ninatoo wrote:Hi David,

Sorry, I am a bit confused by your answer. The record did have a RCE stamp on it saying BIGAMY in big letters like that and a date...vol. number etc I think. So if it had the stamp, does it mean she was or was not prosecuted? And if not, what would the possible reasons be, when she was clearly a bigamist?

Nina
Confused :?: :!:

So am I :shock:

Whatever image I was looking at it wasn't the correct one.

See your email for the RCE image.

There was a conviction, but it wasn't in the High Court of Justiciary, but the Lanark Sheriff Court, which may explain why NAS haven't anything, as the survival rate of such Sheriff Court records is not good.

It's been a l--o--n--g day, forbye

Orraverybest

David
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Post by Thrall » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:01 am

DavidWW wrote: There was considerable confusion after the introduction of civil registration in 1855 as to the exact purpose of the RCE procedure, and just which types of situations and events should be recorded via an RCE entry.
I have a railway death from 1877 which I would in my ignorance expect to have an RCE entry. The DC mentions only the name, no profession, nor whether or not married, but has the age (where from?) if that´s all the info available. The date and where died are there plus a description of the injury and name of the doctor who performed the PM, then "Registered on the information of Melville Jamieson, Procurator Fiscal" This was sixteen days after the accident, which happened in Dunkeld, a fair way from home in Port of Menteith.

For me, not a conclusive DC with no mention of parents nor spouse, but the only explanation for my gr.grandmother´s stepfather´s disappearance. So far I have found no references in newspapers.

Thrall
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