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crayspond
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Post by crayspond » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:29 pm

Alan,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you - i had a look back over my files and i think you are right re the article in the Glasgow Herald.
In the 1891 census i have the family living at 1 Stanley Terrace Clydebank. Elizabeth is 17 then which would make her 24 in 1898. She is a Needlemaker. Dugald her brother is 14 in 1891 making him 21 in 1898. Fitting exactly into the two witnesses in the article.
I would think it would be the same family, what do you think? I wonder what injuries she had?
Not a good year for the family as James their father died in December of that year.
Thanks Alan for flagging that up for me.

Regards
Ailsa

crayspond
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Post by crayspond » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:47 pm

Lesley,

I will persevere with the LDS centre, if i don't get through by phone i will take a drive over there on a week end. My nearest one is in Reading - i am in S.Oxfordshire but it's not too far.
I don't know much about the Dickson family - that is the only info i could find on LDS IGI - Jane born 1837. On the death cert it has James Dickson Master tailor and Elizabeth Dickson m.s Murphy.
Maybe she was a good bit older than him!


Ailsa

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:29 pm

Hi Ailsa
Your local LDS centre is not open at the weekends. Using the link I'd given above, you can find out the hours of the Reading Centre, as follows:

Reading England
280, The Meadway
Tilehurst
Reading, Berkshre, England
Phone: 44 (0) 118-941 0211
Hours: M 10am-3pm; T, W 10am-2pm; Th 10.30am-2.30pm; F 11am-4pm; W 7.30pm-9pm LDS only.
Closed: Bank Hollidays and some holliday periods in August and December

Best wishes
Lesley

crayspond
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Post by crayspond » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:25 pm

Lesley,

Thanks , i thought the W 7.30pm to 9.00pm LDS only was the weekend times! it must be Wed night.

Thanks,

Ailsa

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Post by SarahND » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:30 pm

Hi all,
Does the "LDS only" for Wednesday night mean that at that time only LDS church members are allowed? I'm assuming that's what it means, but I'm just curious, since I hadn't seen that before.

Cheers,
Sarah

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Post by LesleyB » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:52 pm

Does the "LDS only" for Wednesday night mean that at that time only LDS church members are allowed?
That is what I took it to it mean, Sarah. I've also not seen it before, but maybe Reading is a very busy centre.. :?:

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by Currie » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:02 am

Hello Ailsa,

The 19th Century British Library Newspapers Demo is still working at http://access.gale.com/newstrial/ (Password british)
Search for STANLEY TERRACE CLYDEBANK and you’ll find the two articles. Both are very lengthy and detailed. Elizabeth Macfarlane’s evidence was:

Elizabeth Macfarlane, needleworker, stated, in reply to Mr Crabb Watt, that she was 24 years of age, and formed one of the group which was run into by the cyclists. Witness was on the outside of the road just before the accident occurred. They were not singing. She felt a sudden crack on the back, and was knocked down to the ground and rendered insensible. She was assisted to her feet, and then discovered that her mouth was bleeding and badly cut and swollen. One of her teeth was knocked out, and the remainder were more or less loosened. Her face was bruised and discoloured. Since the accident she had been troubled with violent headaches and sudden sicknesses. She never had these troubles before the accident.

If you get stuck let me know and I’ll get them to you.

All the best,
Alan

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Post by crayspond » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:51 am

Alan,

Thanks very much for the link - it was very interesting to read about the case. They received damages amounting to 500 pounds in total of which Elizabeth McFarlane received 75 pounds. A two day trial for a cycling accident would never be heard of nowadays!

Thanks again,

Ailsa