I'm stuck....maybe someone can help?

Birth, Marriage, Death

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annie1
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Post by annie1 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:17 pm

Hi Anihana,

My mothers Aunt was married to a Thomson from Fetteresso, here is something for you to mull over:

Robert Thomson m. Margaret Philip, 1762 Maryculter

Children:

Robert Thomson 1795
James Thomson 1798
George Thomson 1801
Francis Thomson 1804 all b. Maryculter

Francis Thomson m. Mary Forbes 1862 Hill of Muchalls Kincardine, the family moved to Fetteresso.
Children were all born in Fetteresso.

I wonder if your George was maybe the brother of Francis, as his age would fit according to the census, I never did search for the siblings of Francis.
Have you looked for a Headstone at Fetteresso churchyard?

Ann
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Anihana
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Post by Anihana » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:26 pm

:lol: It's interesting that you posted that......last night before I crawled off to bed I found that & wondered as it's the CLOSEST we can get to George's supposed birth date.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/K ... arents.jpg

I guess the ONLY way I can confirm is to find Georges death recorded somewhere....as it should list his parents name yeah?

Cheers
KiwiMR2

Anihana
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Post by Anihana » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:11 am

annie1 wrote: Have you looked for a Headstone at Fetteresso churchyard?

Ann
I'm in NZ......is there any online place I can do this? I had a bit of a hunt but couldn't find anything :(

Cheers
Anihana

Bervonian
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Post by Bervonian » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:22 pm

The 1841 Census of Fetteresso (FreeCen) has this:

Kempstone Hill
George Thomson 39 Agricultural Labourer
Ann " 34
Ann " 13
Alexander " 12
Elspet " 9
George " 7
James " 4
Joseph " 1

All were born within Kincardineshire.
ScotlandsPeople records a George Thomson born/baptised 25 Jan 1801 at Maryculter, Kincardineshire. It looks as if this is the correct person but I'll search the Death Index on SP to try and find him.

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Post by nelmit » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:04 pm

Bervonian wrote:The 1841 Census of Fetteresso (FreeCen) has this:

Kempstone Hill
George Thomson 39 Agricultural Labourer
Ann " 34
Ann " 13
Alexander " 12
Elspet " 9
George " 7
James " 4
Joseph " 1

All were born within Kincardineshire.
ScotlandsPeople records a George Thomson born/baptised 25 Jan 1801 at Maryculter, Kincardineshire. It looks as if this is the correct person but I'll search the Death Index on SP to try and find him.
The 1851 census shows Ann aged 44 as the head of the household. I wonder therefore if George died somewhere between 1843 (when daughter Jane was born) and 1851. A look at that census on SP should show her as a widow if he did.

Regards,
annette

Anihana
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Post by Anihana » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:07 pm

Bervonian wrote:The 1841 Census of Fetteresso (FreeCen) has this:

Kempstone Hill
George Thomson 39 Agricultural Labourer
Ann " 34
Ann " 13
Alexander " 12
Elspet " 9
George " 7
James " 4
Joseph " 1

All were born within Kincardineshire.
ScotlandsPeople records a George Thomson born/baptised 25 Jan 1801 at Maryculter, Kincardineshire. It looks as if this is the correct person but I'll search the Death Index on SP to try and find him.
Sweet so this matches the one I found here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/K ... arents.jpg

BUT......Annette is right, he did die before the 1851 Census, SP only has deaths from 1855 onwards yeah? So did they not record deaths anywhere before then?

This is where I'm stuck....only way to know if that birth (and the parents shown on it) is him is to find a death record as that show's the parents usually yeah?

Cheers
Anihana

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Post by Anihana » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:37 pm

Looking at wills there is ONE possibilty assuming he was a farmer of some type like all the rest of his kid's & grandkids etc. have been......

Thomson George 29/02/1848 Farmer at Greens of Rothis Elgin Sheriff Court Wills

It's a different area though.....I would have thought Stonehave court?

Cheers
Anihana

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Post by LesleyB » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:26 pm

Hi Anihana
BUT......Annette is right, he did die before the 1851 Census, SP only has deaths from 1855 onwards yeah? So did they not record deaths anywhere before then?

This is where I'm stuck....only way to know if that birth (and the parents shown on it) is him is to find a death record as that show's the parents usually yeah?
Statutory Registration started in 1855: it was then a legal requirement to register births, marriages and deaths. Prior to that these events were recorded by individual parishes, though many parishes did not record deaths. Generally speaking, a pre-1855 death is very unlikely to mention a parent unless it is a very young child who has died. See
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4501
and
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4556
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10343

Best wishes
Lesley

annie1
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Post by annie1 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:50 pm

Hi Anihana,

Have you looked at this site www.mywebtiscali.co.uk, I visit here quite often, the man who runs it is Colin Milne, and you should visit his section on Graveyards, he has so much on the area around the North East of Scotland. It is worth a visit.

Ann

Added Later:
Sorry, this link must be his old address, I just save it in my favourites, try googling NE SCOTLAND and Colin Milne
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Post by speleobat2 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:10 am

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/nescotland/index.html

Here's the link for Colin Milne's NE Scotland website. He's a wonderful person to work with. He located several of my relatives graves and sent me pictures! :D

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary