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[trish58]

My Gr Granparents marriage certificate states they were married at 14 Abbotsford Place, Morton? Glasgow, would this be a registry office ? I am a little confused by this.

Thanks
Tricia

[Russell]

Hi Tricia
Although you haven't given a date for your Gr Gr's event I very much doubt it would be a Registry Office as they are a fairly recent innovation.
Abbotsford Place has come up a few times on the board and usually it has been the address of a private dwelling. Most of that area was tenemented property i.e. several families living in flats which shared a common entry and the custom was to be married in the bride or groom's home.
Church weddings are also a comparitively recent phenomenon.
Sometimes bride and groom give the same address but that does not mean they were living together. Mostly it was a convenient way of establishing residence in a parish so that Banns did not have to be called in his and her parishes before they could get maried. (It cost a not inconsiderate sum to have your Banns called.)
Have a look at:
viewtopic.php?t=3113&highlight=abbotsford+place
This might clarify a few things.

Russell

[nelmit]

My Gr Granparents marriage certificate states they were married at 14 Abbotsford Place, Morton? Glasgow, would this be a registry office ? I am a little confused by this.

Thanks
Tricia

I don't understand 'Morton' as I'm fairly sure it was (and still is) in the Gorbals but here is a photograph of what 2 - 28 Abbottsford Place looked like in 1964.

Could it have been the household name?

What were their usual addresses?

Regards,
Annette M

[trish58]

Thanks Russell & Annette

I had looked at the forum on the Abbosford Place address's as I remember other members saying similar to me..

The marrige took place in 14 June 1872, It reads;- Marriages in the district of "Morton" in the Burgh of Glasgow.

After banns according to the "Tome" of the Chuch of Scotland.
The address of both Elizabeth Agnew & Louis Rae is written as;-
20 Tenth Shamrock Street Glasgow.
Signed by John C Minister of

Sorry about all the marks, but this is how the certificate reads.

If anyone can shed any light on these address's I would be very grateful.

Thanks again
Tricia

[Russell]

Hi Tricia

It would read "According to the Forms of the Church of Scotland"

We could probably help with reading the missing/difficult parts of the certificate if you posted it in the Gallery.
Instructions for this are at:
viewtopic.php?t=6496.

Once it has been approved by one of the Admin bods it will be posted so that many pairs of eyes can take a look at it. Usually we can work out what it says eventually.
I wonder if Elizabeth was at the same address in 1871 ? She might be on the census there and you would be able to solve a part of your own puzzle. Who knows - Louis mught be living there as a lodger - a not unheard of situation

Russell

[trish58]

Hi Russell

Thanks for taking this on board, I have uploaded this certificate, waiting for approval..

Elizabeth was living with her Sister Ann on the 1871 census at 40 St Ninians St, Glasgow, parish of Govan.

Thanks again for you time and patience.

Tricia

[nelmit]

Thanks Russell & Annette

I had looked at the forum on the Abbosford Place address's as I remember other members saying similar to me..

The marrige took place in 14 June 1872, It reads;- Marriages in the district of "Morton" in the Burgh of Glasgow.

After banns according to the "Tome" of the Chuch of Scotland.
The address of both Elizabeth Agnew & Louis Rae is written as;-
20 Tenth Shamrock Street Glasgow.
Signed by John C Minister of
Sorry about all the marks, but this is how the certificate reads.

If anyone can shed any light on these address's I would be very grateful.

Thanks again
Tricia

Hi Tricia,

Without seeing the entry I'm certain 'Tome' should read terms.

I think if you look at the Shamrock St again it will be North or South.

And after seeing all that I 've worked out the district is Tradeston not Morton!!!!! He must write using fancy T's.

Regards,
Annette m

[trish58]

Hi Annette

Thanks for that, now I know why you guys are the experts.

Tricia

[nelmit]

No expert Tricia, just a wee bit of local knowledge.

Actually I've just remembered I had ancestors living at East Shamrock Street.

Regards,
Annette M

[AndrewP]

Hi Annette,

You win the coconut (or at least half a coconut).

The handwriting is challenging for this one - it was registered in the District of Tradeston in the Burgh of Glasgow.

After banns according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland.

The certificate can be seen at:
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1407

All the best,

AndrewP