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Another mystery

Post by crayspond » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:14 pm

Hi,
I have managed to find my Gt grandfather David Beveridge thanks to this site. I am now looking at his father Thomas Beveridge born 19/08/1841 in Dunfermline. He married Jane Mitchell 26/09/1862 in Bridgeton, Glasgow - lived at 48 Rumford St Bridgeton. They had 3 kids (i know of) David (my gt grandfather) Thomas and Margaret all on the 1871 census.
My problem is now, i can't find them again - or a death cert for Thomas or Jane. I found one for a mariner but it didn't give me any details about him.
Can anyone help? a thought is they might all have followed David when he went to the USA!!!

Thanks

Ailsa

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Post by paddyscar » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:32 pm

Hi Ailsa:

There are a few matches on the Beveridge surname and some of the first names 1861-1871 on http://www.castlegarden.org If you know the ages from the census, you might be able to spot someone. You might also like to try alternate spellings of the surnames there.

Also there are a lot of immigration sources for the Americas
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10349

All the best in your search,

Frances

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Re: Another mystery

Post by nelmit » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:49 pm

crayspond wrote:Hi,
I have managed to find my Gt grandfather David Beveridge thanks to this site. I am now looking at his father Thomas Beveridge born 19/08/1841 in Dunfermline. He married Jane Mitchell 26/09/1862 in Bridgeton, Glasgow - lived at 48 Rumford St Bridgeton. They had 3 kids (i know of) David (my gt grandfather) Thomas and Margaret all on the 1871 census.
My problem is now, i can't find them again - or a death cert for Thomas or Jane. I found one for a mariner but it didn't give me any details about him.
Can anyone help? a thought is they might all have followed David when he went to the USA!!!

Thanks

Ailsa
When did David go to the USA?

Could this be the family in 1881?

Dwelling: Dalderse
Census Place: Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203539 GRO Ref Volume 479-1 EnumDist 15 Page 23
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jane BEVERADGE M 38 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife (Head)
Occ: Stokers Wife
David BEVERADGE U 18 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Iron Moulder
Thomas BEVERADGE U 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Iron Moulder
George BEVERADGE U 9 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Jane M. BEVERADGE U 3 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Catherine M. BEVERADGE 6 m F Bainsford, Stirling, Scotland
Rel: Daur


Regards,
Annette M

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Re: Another mystery

Post by SarahND » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:06 pm

nelmit wrote:When did David go to the USA?
Hi Annette :D
He went in 1887. For more on this family see these two topics:

http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9697
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10532

I see in my notes that I had assumed the same 1881 census as you found. We'll see if Ailsa agrees :wink: I suppose the job now is to find them in 1891 after David left... :-k

Regards,
Sarah

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Post by crayspond » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:14 am

Hi folks,
I usually get an email telling me i had a reply waiting for me - but for some reason i didn't this time - sorry.
I see what you mean, from the census it looks definitely like the right family. In 1871 they only had David,Thomas and Margaret (no Margaret on 1881) David is right age but Thomas on 1871 is only 4 which would make him 14 not 11 (but we know how wrong it can be). They could have went on to have George, Jane and Catherine.
Why they went to Stirling i have no idea - possibly why i always missed them as i assumed they rarely travelled farther than 5 or 6 miles!
I think maybe the father Thomas died (maybe it is him on the Marine Register ) or he might have went off to America first and then David.
Thanks for all your input folks!

Ailsa

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Post by trish1 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:19 am

I'm slightly unsure what you are looking for, not having been involved with the other threads, but you mention Thomas and Jane having 3 children. The civil births at this time are on the IGI and I find 6 listed - born Bridgetown, Glasgow
David 1862
Mary 1864
Thomas 1866
Margaret Drummond 1868
James 1871
George 1873

So they definitely had a George - would have to check SP for Jane & Catherine

Trish

I just noticed on my transcript of the 1881 given above - the children are
David 18
Thomas 14
George 9
Jane M 3
Catherine M 6 months

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Post by SarahND » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:41 am

Hi Ailsa,
You may be right about them emigrating! This group who emigrated in 1883 look like the 1881 Jane and the youngest two girls-- in Massachusetts, of course :D Jane has fibbed a bit on her age. Five of her children are still living, so we have two more to find...

1900
Adams, Berkshire County, Massachusetts
Beveridge, Jane, Head, born May 1846, age 35. Widowed. Had 9 children, 5 are still living. born Scotland, came to U.S. in 1883
Beveridge, Jennie, Daughter, born Jul 1877, age 22, born Scotland, came to U.S. in 1883, Cotton Mill - Weaver(?)
Beveridge, Katie, Daughter, born Sept 1880, age 19, born Scotland, came to U.S. in 1883, Cotton Mill - Weaver(?)

All the best,
Sarah

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Post by crayspond » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:59 am

Hi Trish,
My Gt grandfather is the David 1862. With great help from SarahND we managed to track him to Hartford, Connecticut and found out loads from the census there. Sarah even pinpointed him on the passenger list.
Anyway i thought i would go further back to his father Thomas Beveridge born 19/8/1841 in Dunfermline. He marries Jane Mitchell 26/9/1862 and i had him on the 1871 census but with only 3 kids in Bridgeton Glasgow.
I could not find them again but as you can see they have surfaced in Falkirk in 1881.
After that i can't find any death certs or them in the 1891 census (might be my bad researching tho!) my thought was that maybe they had emigrated also.
Hope this makes a bit of sense.

Ailsa

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Post by crayspond » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:11 am

Cor blimey Sarah, here we go again - something is drawing me to the USA for sure!!

So it's Thomas and George we are looking for !! must have a coffee to recharge my brain!!

Ailsa

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Post by SarahND » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:17 am

And we're off and running... :wink: :lol:
crayspond wrote:must have a coffee to recharge my brain!!
I just had two cups and it's still not helping me find those two :( :shock:
But will persevere...
Sarah