James Mein Sutherland

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Janice McKinna
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James Mein Sutherland

Post by Janice McKinna » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:08 pm

Hi I can’t find any information about my grandfather can anybody help me? His name was James Mein Sutherland his siblings were Robert, Peggy, Agnes, and Isabel. He married my gran Christine Melrose Turnbull Inglis on the 30/12/1933 in Galashiels he was b 1898 d 1964
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Re: James Mein Sutherland

Post by nelmit » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:10 pm

Janice McKinna wrote:Hi I can’t find any information about my grandfather can anybody help me? His name was James Mein Sutherland his siblings were Robert, Peggy, Agnes, and Isabel. He married my gran Christine Melrose Turnbull Inglis on the 30/12/1933 in Galashiels he was b 1898 d 1964
Hello and welcome Janice,

You can view his birth entry, in 1897 at Galashiels, at Scotlands People.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/searc ... index.aspx

This should show his parents names and you'll be on your way. :D

Regards,
Annette

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Post by nelmit » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:13 pm

This looks like it could be him with his family in 1901 showing his father to be born at Aberdeen (the 1891 census states Old Machar)-

James Sutherland
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Nellie
Gender: Male
Where born: Galashiels, Roxburghshire
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Michael
County: Midlothian
Address: Mcleod Street 19 Corforation Buildings
ED: 152
Household schedule number: 91
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_370
Household Members: Name Age
James Sutherland 4
Margaret Sutherland 3 wks
Nellie Sutherland 30
Nellie Sutherland 2
Robert Sutherland 30

The original can also be viewed at SP.

Regards,
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James Mein Sutherland

Post by Janice McKinna » Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:43 pm

Thank you Annette. Yes I think it is my grandfather, I am new to this and I must have not been doing something wrong because I got nothing and wasted all my credit, now I will get the certificates next month when I have got money for credit. But thank you for the info
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Post by AnneM » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:40 pm

Hi Janice

I think that in 1881 your great grandfather Robert Sutherland (born 23 June 1868) may have been in Oakbank School in Aberdeen. In the census it is noted as a school for boys. Until its very recent closure it was latterly a residential school, mostly for children who had offended but also for children in other difficulties but it was probably different then.

Anne

Nope. Scrub that altogether and never rely on Ancestry! In 1881 your ggf is in Wilton in Roxburghshire with his father Robert a wool spinner, mother Margaret and various brothers and sisters.

The family is as follows:

Robert Sutherland Head 35 Wool Spinner Aberdeen
Margaret Sutherland Wife 32 Woodside, Aberdeen
Jane Sutherland Daur 13 Wool factory worker Woodside Aberdeen
Robert Sutherland Son 12 Scholar Woodside Aberdeen
George Sutherland Son 10 Scholar Woodside Aberdeen
James Sutherland Son 4 Woodside Aberdeen
Mary Sutherland Daur 2 Hawick Roxburgh Scotland
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Post by AndrewP » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:50 pm

Following Anne's clues above, here is some more on that family group.

These are the children listed on the online IGI to Father: Robert Sutherland and Mother: Margaret Pratt. Looks like they should be your lot.

JANE ROSS SUTHERLAND - Birth: 11 SEP 1866 Old Machar, Aberdeenshire
ROBERT SUTHERLAND - Birth: 23 JUN 1868 Old Machar, Aberdeenshire

-- (no sign of George's 1870 birth on the online IGI) --
MARGARET SUTHERLAND - Birth: 23 MAR 1873 Banff, Banffshire

ROBERT SUTHERLAND / MARGARET PRATT - Marriage: 07 JUL 1866 Old Machar, Aberdeenshire

1871 Census, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire
Robert Sutherland 26
Margaret Sutherland 23
Jane R Sutherland 4
Robert Sutherland 2
George Sutherland 6 Mo


George does show up on ScotlandsPeople, for an 1870 birth in Old Machar, even if he escaped indexing on the IGI. The IGI births stop at the end of 1874, so the younger members of this family won't be found there.

All the best,

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Post by AnneM » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:37 pm

Hi again

Your Robert turns up in the 1851 census in Aberdeen with his family and again in 1861 with Mum and no Dad. The thing to watch there is that his father is indexed in 1851 under a shortened version of his name. Don't expect Robert's Mum and Dad to have been born in Aberdeen.

The best thing of all is that Robert's mother lives till after 1855 though his father is a bit more of an enigma.

Happy Hunting. We won't spoil it for you by giving you all the answers but do post if you get stuck.

Anne
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