Possible Illegitimate Child

[David Lang]

Can anyone help, i am trying to find out whose son a child is on a census return.

In 1901 I have a grandson of David Stewart , staying in his household at 61 Orchard Street, Partick.

The name i think maybe Albert/Albart.

David and his wife Chrisitna Fletcher have 7 children of which , i think 5 survive to this point. Of the 5 only the 2 youngest daughters remain in the household Mary (Aged 22) and Helen (Aged 21).

Of The other daughters Chrisitna is married and living away from home, and Elizabeth Finaly Stewart ( Born 1871) i cannot trace past 1891 census, the son William (Born 1869) i cannot trace past the 1881 census.

I have tried searching for an Albert Stewart or an A* Steart with varying birth dates but cant get a match.

I am thinking he maybe registered under his fathers name, but uses his mothers name, is it possible to search for only first names ?

[SarahND]

Hi David,
Have you looked at the alb* st*art who was born 1898 in Hutchesontown? That's the only one I see in Glasgow City at the right time. Unfortunately, it is not possible to search just by first names (how I wish it were!)

All the best,
Sarah

[David Lang]

Hi Sarah

Unfortunately Albert John Stewart is the son of John Stewart and Mary Philips so not mine.

I am suspecting a child of one of the daughters in the household in 1901 so will have to track down their deaths and hoepfully the son might be in the informant.

David

[SarahND]

Hi David,
Too bad that wasn't the right Albert

the son William (Born 1869) i cannot trace past the 1881 census.

Could this be William?

1891
1 Hozier St, Partick, Govan, Lanarkshire
William Stewart, 21, Head, born Partick, Lanarkshire, Shipwright
James Stewart, 21, Wife, born Partick, Lanarkshire
Margaret Stewart, 10 Mo, Daur, born Partick, Lanarkshire

1901
55 Crawford St, Partick, Lanarkshire
William Stewart, 31, Head, born Partick, Ship Blacksmith
Jessie Stewart, 27, Wife, born Maryhill, Dumbartonshire
William Stewart, 4, Son, born Partick
Catherine Stewart, 2, Daur, born Partick
Henry Stewart, 7 Mo, Son, born Partick

This is not helping you find Albert, unless he was Catherine's twin and was staying with the grandparents on the night... but in that case there should be a birth for him.

Otherwise, since you are close to the research facilities, you could check out the 15 marriages for Albert Stewart between 1917 and 1932 (six of them in Glasgow City) at Park Circus or NRH and see if any of them look possible. Of course, if he was the illegitimate son of one of the daughters, and then took his father's surname later on... There's a problem Maybe the 1911 census will clarify things!

All the best,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Elizabeth Finaly Stewart ( Born 1871) i cannot trace past 1891 census

Given how many Elizabeths and Stewarts there are in Scotland it's hard to be certain, but could this be your Elizabeth in 1901?

11 Fairlie Pk Drive, Partick
Wm Squair, 45, Head, born Shettleston, Lanark, Butcher Shop
Wilhelmina Squair, 31, Wife, born Lawrieston, Stirling
Robt Squair, 2, Son, born Halkirk, Stirling
Elizabeth Stewart, 29, Servt, born Partick, Lanark, Domestic

Best wishes,
Sarah

[David Lang]

Thanks for that Sarah

Did a wee bit of digging yesterday and managed to find the marriages of Mary and Helen.

Helen married a James Josey in 1904 and Mary married James Miller in 1901 both in Partick.

The William looks a good bet and I will look it up to confirm it is him.

Elizabeth is a nightmare , they are so many of them the good thing being i have many Stewarts in Partick and most of them have turned out to be related to me somewhere along the line !!!!

If that Elizabeth is , i suspect that wee Albert might be her child if she is living outwith the house.

I think a visit to Park Circus could be in order but trying to fit it round my work is a nightmare, if only it opened on the weekends!!

Thnaks again

[David Lang]

Just to let you know the William above is my William so of David, his wife was Jane Murray.

Cant find death certificates for them so think they may have emigrated, to where i havent a clue!!!

Also have found Mary's DC but not one of Helens do i suspect again they may have emigrated with a surname like Josey it may be easier to trace them (hopefully).

Still drawing a balnk on Albert , if only we could search by first name only

[David Lang]

Just an update

Still looking for Albert/Albart Ancestry gives him as born Partick and as Grandson of David Stewart, tried looking at the 2 girls husband surnames and even the possible Elizabeth Employers surname, but no avail this man is turning out to be a mystery indeed.

Any help much appreciated!!

[speleobat2]

David,

Have you caught up with Helen yet? I was reading your post above from Oct. 2008 where you hadn't found Helen death cert. I just found a tree on Ancestry with Helen Fletcher Stewart married to James Josey. James dies in 1931 and Helen marries Peter Aitken. There is a ton of information on this tree along with pictures of both Helen and James Josey. The tree is McDonald family tree. Owner is dunmac96 and it is an active tree right now.

Carol

[speleobat2]

Hi again,

The 1901 census on Ancestry says that Helen is Albart's mother.

Carol