Glendinning Family Edinburgh

Rachael · Post by **Rachael** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:54 pm

first of all, im new to the forum so not sure if im posting in the right place so if im not I apologise!

i feel like im hitting my head against a brick wall.

I am trying to find a birth Cert for my gggmother about 1845 (d.4th June 1889), her name was Christian Glendinning ( married George Johnston 20th sept 866)) she has also appearred on other records as Christina/ christine. Her Parents were Peter Glendinning and Ann young. Christian had several siblings - edward, ann, margaret, catherine, peter. I can find them all in censuses but just cannot find any birth info for any of them - its as if the whole family was not registered at all.

does anyone have any ideas how i can find the birth certs? i have put her name and many variations into SP but am having no luck at all

Thanks for any help

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:29 pm

Hi Rachael

I think you've summed it up quite succinctly...."it's as if the whole family was not registered at all". Which is quite possibly the case here. Christina was married according to the forms of the church of Scotland which makes one think she had been raised the same which should bode well for finding the baptisms in the OPR's available online. This is not the case though.....that and the fact that not one single birth to Peter and Ann is found on familysearch either makes me think that perhaps that is just the reason...they were never recorded in the first place. This was certainly not a crime...matter of fact it was far more common than we like to discover. The census states they were born in St. Cuthberts and the OPR records from there do exist so if they had been recorded at least one or two of them should appear.

Not the news you'd care to hear.....but the best I can offer!

Jean

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:53 pm

Hi Rachael

Welcome to TS - I concur with Jean on this one - I had a look on SP and IGI - no trace whatever and no trace on St Cuthberts OPR Records either.

But - don't give up - keep trying.

Jean - HNY

Regards

Ted

Rachael · Post by **Rachael** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:58 pm

thanks very much for the replies.

how very careless of them to forget to record the births

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:40 pm

Hi Rachael
The date of 1845 makes me wonder if there might be a Free Church reason - the split from the Church of Scotland was in 1843. It's just an idea, and their missing may have nothing to do with that at all! And if the marriage was later CoS as Jean has noted, then that makes it less likely, though not impossible.

Do you know roughly when the eldest child was born to Peter Glendinning and Ann Young? Have you found a marriage for Peter Glendinning and Ann Young?

Another area to explore may be the state of St Cuthberts OPRs - how well kept were they and how complete are they? It may be they were not well kept, or it may be that although well kept at the time, parts have since been lost or accidently destroyed, as happens.

Best wishes
Lesley

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:49 pm

Hi Rachael

Found the OPR Marriage for Peter and Anne - married at St Cuthberts on 11 Sep 1826 - Peter Glendinning - residing at 59 Potterrow, Edinburgh and Ann Young - residing at Kays Court - Eastcross Causway, Edinburgh - daughter of James Young - Weaver.

If you PM me I'll send the details.

Regards

Ted

Rachael · Post by **Rachael** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:25 pm

thanks very much Ted, i should have stated earlier that i had the marraige records but i appreciate you taking the time.

the elest child edward was born about 1839, he was in the 1841 census but not with the family in the 1851 census - maybe he didnt survive childhood.

another question, i have the death cert copy for Ann ( mother of christian-wife of peter) her mothers maiden name i cant decipher - is there anyway i can copy and paste from sp onto here to get a fresh pair of eyes?. also on her marraige cert it states her father was james but on her death cert her father is called john?? clerical error?

thanks very much for all your help

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:38 pm

Hi Rachael

Instructions on uploading an image here:-

viewtopic.php?t=6496

You will get lots of help with the handwriting on this forum.

Regards

Ted

Rachael · Post by **Rachael** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:17 pm

brilliant, thanks Ted. I have uploaded Ann Glendinnings death cert - hopefully someone will be able to decipher her mothers maiden name for me

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1752
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I'm having problems opening the image "not a supported type"and size appears to be 0 bytes, which suggests there is no content.... Is it just me? If you can open it/can't open it, let me know. You may need to upload it again, Rachael>

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:03 pm

Hi Rachael and welcome!

Rachael wrote: the elest child edward was born about 1839, he was in the 1841 census but not with the family in the 1851 census - maybe he didnt survive childhood.

It would seem odd that, if they were married in 1826, the eldest child would not have been born until 13 years later. isn't this the family in 1841?

West Crosscasway 12, Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Midlothian
Peter Glendinning, 33, born Midlothian, F Lapidary
Ann Glendinning, 36, born Midlothian
Ann Glendinning, 11, born Midlothian
Margaret Glendinning, 9, born Midlothian
Catherine Glendinning, 7, born Midlothian
Edward Glendinning, 2, born Midlothian

All the best,
Sarah