can't find birth/mar certs on SP.....

nancy · Post by **nancy** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:38 pm

Help someone please!!! Going round in circles,spending credits and getting nowhere!On hubbies gramps (THOMAS SEATON) BC it gives GR/gr (ARCHIBALD DUNCAN SEATON)marr as 5/DEC/1865PAISLEY. I can't find either marr or birth cert for him.Wife was Margt Reid. I found him on 1891Census as Lodger aged 53. I then checked IGI and found.FAMILY GROUP RECORD as follows: Husband THOMAS SEATON. Wife JANE CURDY. Children ARCHIBALD DUNCAN SEATON. B about 1838 GOVAN,LANARK. Death,5th AUG 1891,BARLINNIE POOR HOUSE,LANARK. I can't find anything on his parents Thomas and Jane either. I checked poorhouses on web but couldn't find info on Barlinnie one.Any suggestions? Hope I'm exlaining things properly.I've been at pc too long, off to watch corrie,relax with cuppa,and be back with you in an hour or so!Thanks

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:52 pm

The IGI shows the 1865 marriage, extracted frpom the certificates, but I see no sign of it on ScotlandsPeople for 1865-1866. Try sending a contact form to ScotlandsPeople, suggesting it is missing from the records given the matching evidence of from the son's BC and the IGI.

ARCHIBALD DUNCAN SEATON - MARGARET REID - International Genealogical Index
Marriage: 05 DEC 1865 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland

In the meantime, it may be quicker for you to see the other copy of the certificate that should be in the Registrar's office in Paisley.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:57 pm

Hi Nancy,

Don't know if you have this, but it might be difficult finding anything on Jane CURDY - she appears to have died before the census in June 1841.
Hubby Thomas has re-married by October of that year.
So G-GF Archibald had a few half brothers & sisters.
--
THOMAS SEATON
MARTHA MCLEAN
Marriage: 31 OCT 1841 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
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1841 cens 644-2 Ed 72 p 3 (Hutchesontown - Gorbals)
Rutherglen Loan.
Thomas SEATON 30, shoemaker, b SCT
Ann SEATON 8, ------- b LKS
Archibald SEATON 3,---- b LKS
Robert SEATON 1, ------ b LKS
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1851 cens 644-2 (607) Ed 3 p 9 (Hutchesontown - Gorbals)
49 St Ninian Street.
Thomas SEATON head, marr, 40, shoemaker, b Catrine, AYR
Martha SEATON, wife, 25, --------- b Paisley, RFW
Ann SEATON, daur, u/m 18, cotton steam loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Archibald SEATON, son, 13, shoemaker, b Glasgow, LKS
Rebecca SEATON, daur, 7, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Thomas SEATON, son, 5, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Margaret SEATON, daur, 3, ------ b Glasgow, LKS
Martha SEATON, daur, 1, ------ b Glasgow, LKS
--
1861 cens 644-10 Ed 5 p 4 (Govan - Hutchesontown)
67 Commercial Rd.
Thomas SEATON, head, marr, 49, shoemaker, b Catrine AYR
Martha SEATON, wife, 36, shoemaker's wife, b Paisley RFW
Rebecca SEATON, daur, u/m 17, steam loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Thomas SEATON, son, 16, brassfounder finisher, b Glasgow, LKS
Margaret SEATON, daur, 14, steam loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Martha SEATON, daur, 12, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Agnes SEATON, daur, 10, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary SEATON, daur, 4, -------- b Glasgow, LKS
Elizabeth SEATON, daur, 2, --- b Glasgow, LKS
=======
from IGI -
MARY SEATON - Birth: 01 MAR 1857 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
ELIZABETH SEATON - Birth: 11 APR 1859 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
ISABELLA SEATON - Birth: 13 JUN 1861 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
WILLIAM SEATON - Birth: 24 FEB 1866 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
==
Jack
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Edited to include census details.

sporran · Post by **sporran** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:19 pm

Hello Nancy,

the marriage is there, but indexed under Seaton and Glen, since Margaret was a widow. Please submit a contact form, since it should have been indexed under Reid as well.

A search on just Seaton, Renfrew, 1865 finds it.

Regards,

John

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:32 pm

nancy wrote:Help someone please!!! Going round in circles,spending credits and getting nowhere!On hubbies gramps (THOMAS SEATON) BC it gives GR/gr (ARCHIBALD DUNCAN SEATON)marr as 5/DEC/1865PAISLEY. I can't find either marr or birth cert for him.Wife was Margt Reid. I found him on 1891Census as Lodger aged 53. I then checked IGI and found.FAMILY GROUP RECORD as follows: Husband THOMAS SEATON. Wife JANE CURDY. Children ARCHIBALD DUNCAN SEATON. B about 1838 GOVAN,LANARK. Death,5th AUG 1891,BARLINNIE POOR HOUSE,LANARK. I can't find anything on his parents Thomas and Jane either. I checked poorhouses on web but couldn't find info on Barlinnie one.Any suggestions? Hope I'm exlaining things properly.I've been at pc too long, off to watch corrie,relax with cuppa,and be back with you in an hour or so!Thanks

Hello Nancy,

If you check Archibald's death entry on Scotlands People I'm pretty sure you will find he died in Barnhill Poorhouse.

You can view these poorhouse applications at The Mitchell Library in Glasgow. They can be really informative. I've posted one of mine in the gallery - http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-69.

Annette M

nancy · Post by **nancy** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:58 pm

Thanks a million,Andrew,John,Annette and Jack for all your help.I will do as you all suggest.I'll be studying your list for a wee while Jack,over a hot chocolate.It's great what you found about hubby Bruce's family. Cheers to you all. NANCY

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:07 am

Some branches of Sporran's Cavan McCurdys moved to Ayr and become Curdy and McCurdie.

We only have one son to an Alexander McCurdy of Cavan, Samuel born about 1805. Samuel didn't arrive in Ayrshire until much later though.

Other Argyll and Bute McKirdys also became Curdys. I'll try to contact Shane (the McCurdy Guru) to see if he has a Seaton/Curdy anywhere in his files.

nancy · Post by **nancy** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:04 am

Hi Andy thanks a lot.I'm amazed at what i've found out,and will take me a wee while to sort them all.I had never heard of Curdy.I had only heard of McKirdy as there's quite a few in Paisley.I'm happy with all the help i can get!Thanks again,CHEERS NANCY

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:38 am

Hi Nancy,

Edited the earlier post to include all the census details.

One of these days i'll need to contact Andy & John - i've a 1C3R who married a McKirdy...!

Jack

nancy · Post by **nancy** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:51 pm

Hi Jack,Another great big thank you for the rest of census details,I can't believe i've got all this info to work on. Cheers,Nancy.

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