elliot smith b1824 carnoustie, barry,scotland

[glo56]

Hi everryone. I,m looking for any help i can get on tracing my grt grandfathers family. elliot smith married charlotte grieg from st. vigans area in 1850. One of their children david smith b1859 came to australia between 1871 to 1881 married Jessie calley from scotland in 1882 in n.s.w. australia. I,ve hit a brick wall here in australia, any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
regards glo56

[Bethan]

There are census entries for Elliot from 1841 with his parents; at 1861 at Barry with Charlotte, also David, age two, and other children Elizabeth, James and Ann.

David's a farm servant at Castleton farmhouse St Vigeans in 1871; Elliot's a general dealer in 1871 at Victoria Cottage, Barry, with extra family, Isabella, Alexander, Margaret and Jessie.

Charlotte seems to have died before 1881, as then, Elliot, at Ravensby Feus, has a new wife, Isabella. Elliot is still living in 1891 and 1901.

[Bethan]

You'll be looking at Scotland's people and IGI for more details on everyone - however, I've found some of my Barry born family (not Smiths!) on Deceased Online and looking at one Barry burial entry for 1873 I have, I see an Elizabeth Sturrock Smith, daughter of Elliot and Charlotte Grieg. dying aged 21 and a half years in October of that year. The Barry Monumental inscriptions have a stone for a John Smith of Gardyneburgh, Barry, who died in 1852, and his wife Elizabeth Sturrock - could be relevant.

[glo56]

Thank you for your reply. Yes the information you gave does fit in. I am still trying to find out is there somewhere i can find out if david smith son of elliot smith came out to australia as a convict for a crime or a free person. I have a feeling he had done a crime. Again thank you for your help. glo56

[Bethan]

You could try the Australia and New Zealand board here, perhaps. Sorry I'm not able to help for this part of your search.

[Currie]

Hello Glo,

I don’t know where you are up to with your research into David Smith after his arrival in Australia. His and his wife’s death certificates should normally show how long they had lived in Australia.

Here’s some info about convict transportation to Australia. http://www.convictcentral.com/ You’ll see that transportation to the eastern colonies (States) of Australia ceased long before David Smith was born. Transportation to Western Australia ceased in 1868. He could not have been a convict.

The Queensland State Archives immigration database http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research ... ration.asp
has a couple of possibilities for David Smith. One arrived on the St. James in 1876, age 17, the other arrived on the Scottish Knight on 15 June 1881, age 22. The second one would have missed the 1881 UK census held in April. Here’s a bit about the Scottish Knight voyage at bottom of 5th column. http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/ar ... +knight%22

SMITH David 17 St James 17 Jan 1876
SMITH David 22 Scottish Knight 15 Jun 1881

The same immigration database has a Jessie Calley, age 19, arriving on the Duke of Athole on 26 March, 1882. Does her age fit with yours and is the date of marriage in Sydney compatible with that arrival in Brisbane? And was she in Scotland in 1881?

CALLEY Jessie 19 Duke of Athole 26 Mar 1882

All the best,
Alan