Jessie H. Leamonth, b.a.1869, can't find birth

[littaol]

Hi

Being new to scottish genealogy, records and names, I am having difficulty finding the birth of Jessie H. Learmonth.

I already entered a question in another thread, but found that it would be more visible here (sorry abot that!) Link to other thread: posting.php?mode=quote&f=3&p=117663

This is what I wrote:
"I am doing some research for a Norwegian with Scottish ancestors and in my work, I have come over a puzzle that involves a woman called Agnes Hogg. She died 7 Oct 1871, 23 years old in South Leith.

She was the wife of Robert Learmonth and the daughter of Alexander Hogg and Janet Hume.

In 1894 a Jessie Hume Learmonth marries William Wood in Edinburgh and the record tells us that she is 25 years old and her parents are James Learmonth and Agnes Hogg. Both deceased. In the census records I find a James Learmonth married to Agnes Aitken living with her father Alexander Aitken.

Does any of you know anything about these families ? I need to find Jessie Hume Learmonth's birth record and also solve the mystery of the Learmonth/Hume/Hogg/Aitken families.

It is my first day searching the Scottish records and I am not sure that I do it very efficiently "

Thank you for your patience with a newbie. If you need help searching Danish or Norwegian ancestors, let me know

[LesleyB]

Hi Litta

...and welcome to Talking Scot.

In 1894 a Jessie Hume Learmonth marries William Wood in Edinburgh and the record tells us that she is 25 years old and her parents are James Learmonth and Agnes Hogg.

And have you found Jessie in the 1901 census? This would tell you her place of birth and maybe help you track her down.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Tracey]

Hello Littaol and welcome to TS !

Jessie as a name could be short for many things so...........
Is this them in 1871 ?
1871
Address: 1 Anderson Pl Leith South, Midlothian
Robert Learmonth 25 Head Flour Stone Miller
Agness Learmonth 22 Wife
Janet H Learmonth 3 Daughter born Leith
David 23 Lodger
James Wait 23 Lodger

There is only one birth of a Janet Learmonth on Scotlandspeople in Leith searching years 1867/68 have you discounted that one ?

Tracey

[LesleyB]

That looks very likely Tracey.

Perhaps Janet's father died when she was quite young and she gave his name incorrectly at the time of marriage? Do you know when he died Litta?

[Tracey]

There is also only one marriage of a Robert Learmonth and Agnes Hogg in 1867, if you dont have that .

Scotlandspeople http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

[Tracey]

Hi

In 1894 a Jessie Hume Learmonth marries William Wood in Edinburgh and the record tells us that she is 25 years old and her parents are James Learmonth and Agnes Hogg. Both deceased. In the census records I find a James Learmonth married to Agnes Aitken living with her father Alexander Aitken.

It May be a little early for me to be getting my head round anything other than a cup of earl gray but this looks like the family you quote above which looks like a different family to me ?

1881
James Learmonth 32 Head – Grain Porter – born Prestonkirk, Haddingtonshire
Agnes Learmonth 33 Wife born North Berwick Haddingtonshire
Agnes F Learmonth 2 Daughter born Leith Midlothian

Edit......
Thinking about it the site i got this from is notorious for many things and so the original image may put Agnes age at 12.
Where are those discs when you need them

[Tracey]

1891
Name: Jessie Learmount (probably mistranscribed) ?
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Female
Where born: Leith, Midlothian
Registration Number: 684/1
Registration district: Portobello
Civil parish: Duddingston
County: Midlothian
Address: 132 High St
Occupation: General Serv Domestic

[trish1]

Scotland birth and marriage records 1855-1874 (& a couple of other years I can never remember) are on the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

Robert Learmonth married Agnes Hogg 29 April 1867 Edinburgh parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian

Two children found
Janet Hume Learmonth 14 Nov 1867 leith Midlothian
Peter Learmonth Born 5 oct 1871 Leith, Midlothian (would need to check SP or census to see if Peter survived - his mother dying 2 days later)

Trish

Edit: Depending on when Robert died - did his daughter think his name was James - was he named after his father? - named Robert, known as James? Was she brought up by an Uncle James after her mother died?

[trish1]

1881 4 Devon Place St George Midlothian
Robert Learmouth 36 head born East Linton Haddingtonshire Flour Miller
Margaret H Learmouth 31 wife
Janet H Learmouth 13 dau born leith
Peter Learmouth 9 son born Leith
William H Learmouth 4 son
Robert Learmouth 2 son

This is the family that Tracey found in 1871 - Robert seems to have remarried & Peter looks to have survived - also the family from the IGI
If Jessie who married in 1894 is this Janet Hume - she must have been confused about her father's name??

Trish

IGI Robert Learmonth married Margaret Hastie 11 Dec 1874 leith, Midlothian

[littaol]

I am overwhelmed

I have probably mixed up some families and need some help to get it right, I think. Firts, I thought that Learmounth must be a rare name and in Norway it obviously is. But not so much in Scotland.

-and I do not know where to start!

The two main documents that I think is the most important is :

a) The wedding in 1894 telling us that Jessie is 25 years old and the daughter of James Learmount and Agnes Learmount, born Hogg. Both deceased.
b) The 1891 Census stating that Jessie is born abt 1869 in Leith, Midlothian

I have tried to find her in the 1861 and 1871 Census, but have not succeeded.

In 1886 a James Learmont dies in St. George, Edinburgh, age 78. His wife was Agnes Aitken.

Regarding the name Jessie, I was not aware that it could be something else. At least not in the official documents. But you say that it might? It complicates things a bit.

I have to read through your answers again to sum it up and hopefully I find a solution, before I am ruined. It is very clever with the payment thing. Small amounts, but a lot of them
I am not used to that. In Norway it is all open to everybody. No charge.