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trish1
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Address on Death Certificate

Post by trish1 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:24 pm

One of my family owned a small property near Balgedie in Kinross shire. It appears to have meant alot to the family as later members named their farms/houses Balgedie. I have 2 death certificates - 1944 and 1946 for James Scott and his wife Jane. James was an architect who lived in St Andrews, Fife. He was there in the 1891 Census & died there in 1944 - aged 82.

My query is - on his death certificate the place of death is given as Balgedie, St Andrews. Would this be enough to identify the location - I assume it is the name of the family property/house in St Andrews? The same location is given on his wife's death in 1946. In 1901/1911 the census address for the family is "Rokeby" which I assume (but do not know) is a different house. James bought the Kinross property in 1918 - from the estate of a relative.

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Re: Address on Death Certificate

Post by Montrose Budie » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:19 am

trish1 wrote:One of my family owned a small property near Balgedie in Kinross shire. It appears to have meant a lot to the family as later members named their farms/houses Balgedie. I have 2 death certificates - 1944 and 1946 for James Scott and his wife Jane. James was an architect who lived in St Andrews, Fife. He was there in the 1891 Census & died there in 1944 - aged 82.

My query is - on his death certificate the place of death is given as Balgedie, St Andrews. Would this be enough to identify the location - I assume it is the name of the family property/house in St Andrews? The same location is given on his wife's death in 1946. In 1901/1911 the census address for the family is "Rokeby" which I assume (but do not know) is a different house. James bought the Kinross property in 1918 - from the estate of a relative.

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Basically, probably, yes.

Balgedie itself consisted of two hamlets, Easter and Wester, in Portmoak parish in the County of Kinross, so that it's a reasonable assumption that the St Andrews family had connection there, as you demonstrate.

Is the address on the death register entry just Balgedie, St Andrews? If that's the case, then that was the actual address where the death occurred, as reported to and, by implication, confirmed by the registrar; with 'Balgedie' being the name of a house, or maybe an estate.

Contemporaneous voters rolls and valuation rolls records should allow you to identify the exact location.

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Re: Address on Death Certificate

Post by Currie » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:49 pm

Hello Trish,

I found some newspaper notices that you may already have seen.

Dundee Courier, July 23, 1896, birth of daughter at Rokeby.
Glasgow Herald, February 8, 1898, birth of son same place.
The Scotsman, 26 Nov 1946, death notice Balgedie.
The Scotsman, 03 Oct 1890, marriage notice to Jeannie.
The Scotsman, 18 Dec 1923, letter from Lt.-Col. H. J. H. Hunter, Rokeby, St. Andrews, about foot and mouth disease in Persia.
The Scotsman, 30 Apr 1949, marriage notice of Gordon Lindsay, son of Mr & Mrs T. T. Fordyce, “Rokeby,” Hepburn Gardens, St Andrews.

“Rokeby,” Hepburn Gardens, appears to be No. 11, & see owner’s picture from 1975.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=lil ... 22&f=false

Work done on Rokeby in 1910 & 1940, described as a Double Villa.
http://www.scottisharchitects.org.uk/bu ... ?id=236195

I couldn’t quite figure out which was No. 11 but it could be the place next to the church. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=56 ... 9,,0,-2.04

Hope that helps,
Alan

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Re: Address on Death Certificate

Post by trish1 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:28 pm

Thank you both. The original property was in Wester Balgedie - and the death entry was simply Balgedie, St Andrews. Guess it was small enough then to identify house names as the address. Rather reminds me of my youth in a small town in NSW when the town name was more than a sufficient address for the local postman.

Alan - it would seem that my man being an architect, may have been responsible for the work at Rokeby in 1910. I hadn't seen your links so will add them to my growing list in relation to this family. I still think the Australian branch made the property in Balgedie (Kinross) to be somewhat more than it has been found to be

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