I have a SP extract of a marriage certificate for William Sawers and Catherine Brown ( my g grand-parents) - 1862. In the first column below the date, the entry reads " after banns according to the form of the ...... Church. I think the letters before Church are U P. All the other certificates I have are "according to Church of Scotland - can someone suggest what church this refers to?
Many thanks. Mo-anne
Can someone explain info on Marriage certificate?
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Re: Can someone explain info on Marriage certificate?
Hi Mo-anne,
UP = United Presbyterian Church.
All the best,
AndrewP
UP = United Presbyterian Church.
All the best,
AndrewP
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Re: Can someone explain info on Marriage certificate?
Andrew beat me to it Mo-Anne but its great to see you back on TS. Did you ever find your Inveresk folks ?
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Re: Can someone explain info on Marriage certificate?
Thanks for this - I knew someone would know the answer !
Which leads to my next question - where can I find birth records for those in United Presbyterian Church?
Thanks for the welcome back - and no, sadly I have still not managed to track down the Inveresk relatives.
Regards Mo
Which leads to my next question - where can I find birth records for those in United Presbyterian Church?
Thanks for the welcome back - and no, sadly I have still not managed to track down the Inveresk relatives.
Regards Mo
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Re: Can someone explain info on Marriage certificate?
Hi Mo
You may be lucky or totally out of luck with U.P. records. Some UP churches re-joined the mainstream Established Church and handed over their records and they are in the National Archives. Other churches gradually dwindled and many of their records have been lost. Having said that, not all Established churches handed over all the records they were supposed to so it's a very mixed picture.
Russell
You may be lucky or totally out of luck with U.P. records. Some UP churches re-joined the mainstream Established Church and handed over their records and they are in the National Archives. Other churches gradually dwindled and many of their records have been lost. Having said that, not all Established churches handed over all the records they were supposed to so it's a very mixed picture.
Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny
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Re: Can someone explain info on Marriage certificate?
Russell
It may have taken some long period of time, several decades in fact, and at least one updated Act of Parliament but it was eventually the case that all Established Church of Scotland congregations handed over their pre-1855 records of births (or baptisms) and marriages (or banns) to GROS.
Congregations who initially objected often did so on the basis of this representing unwarranted state interference in church matters, and were given a perfect get-out by the fact that the 1854 act only specified births and marriages, and not baptisms or banns (including just records of payment, where this could infer a subsequent marriage). This was fairly swiftly addressed as part of an amending act, but some congregations continued to object and seek further get-outs such as the relevant records being contained in session records.
There was a lot of toing and froing but it eventually agreed by even the most recalcitrant congregations that it was OK for their records to be lent to GROS and copied (by hand given the era).
mb
It may have taken some long period of time, several decades in fact, and at least one updated Act of Parliament but it was eventually the case that all Established Church of Scotland congregations handed over their pre-1855 records of births (or baptisms) and marriages (or banns) to GROS.
Congregations who initially objected often did so on the basis of this representing unwarranted state interference in church matters, and were given a perfect get-out by the fact that the 1854 act only specified births and marriages, and not baptisms or banns (including just records of payment, where this could infer a subsequent marriage). This was fairly swiftly addressed as part of an amending act, but some congregations continued to object and seek further get-outs such as the relevant records being contained in session records.
There was a lot of toing and froing but it eventually agreed by even the most recalcitrant congregations that it was OK for their records to be lent to GROS and copied (by hand given the era).
mb