Can't find death cert.....

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hello All,

I've been searching for the death of Mary Finnick ms Rodger.
She was on the 1871 census and when her husband died in 1872 he was shown as married to, not widow of.
I think I've covered all possibilities by searching for mar* f*n*k /r**ger*, all years from 1872, no age, but there are no matches.

I couldn't find her on the 1881 census either.

Can anyone suggest where I should go from here please (maybe to the nearest bar! )

Regards,

Alison

[sporran]

Hello Alison,


what was her age in 1871? There are lots of alternative spellings so I would like to be sure that I am dealing with the right person.


Regards,

John

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hi John,

Her age was given as 56 in the 1871 census in Canongate. She was born 3.6.1812 in Sprouston, Roxburgh.

Hope this means you have an idea! You've very kindly helped me out before so I'll keep my fingers crossed that you'll come up with the goods again!

Thanks in anticipation,

Alison

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hello again,

Sorry, I should have said on first post that Mary and husband Robert were variously known as Finnick, Fenwick , also Fennick on 1871 census.
Their son Geoge signed his name as Fenwick on his father's death cert. but their son Robert used and signed Finnick throughout his life.

Incidentally, in 1858 a Robert Finnick, alias Fenwick, a mason in Dunfermline (Robert was a mason) was tried at the High Court in Stirling for "wilful fire raising". Verdict unproven. It's unproven at the moment that this is 'my' Robert but I strongly suspect it is and am looking forward to next visit to Edinburgh to see the file in NAS.

Mary's ms has also been written as Rodger, Rodgers, Rogers but I think I had covered all permutations using wildcards but maybe there are other variations I haven't thought of.

Regards,

Alison

[sporran]

Hello Alison,


I followed Robert (junior) through the censuses up to his death in 1909 but no sign of mum with him. The other offspring that I know about (Mary Thorburn and George) were together in the 1871 census but vanished after father's death in 1872. Do you know where they went? In addition, Robert (junior) was born in England about 1840, so did some of the family return there? 1881 and 1901 England/Wales censuses turned up nothing likely for me.


Regards,

John

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hello John,

Many thanks for trying with this, and many thanks for Mary Thorburn as I didn't know about her.

Although Robert (junior) was born in England, according to the census info I have for Mary and George, they were born in Dunfermline. Robert and Mary were both born in Scotland, so I'm assuming they were in England temporarily when Robert was born. He is the oldest of their children that I've found so far. It's been a bit of a process of elimination with these as I haven't found any of the births registered, nor the marriage of Robert and Mary.

Amongst the trial papers in NAS is a case of a Philip Finnick, mason, Foundry Street, Dunfermline, 'for the crime of robbery or theft' tried at Perth High Court 11th April 1871. On the Census (aged 30) he is being held in Dunfermline Prison and gives his place of birth as Kelso, Roxburghshire. Idon't know how much personal detail is given in court records but I shall look when I go to Edinburgh as although I have no proof he's a son of Robert and Mary I've a feeling he is.
Foundry Street is off of Pilmuir Street where Robert jr was in 1871 (age 31) and Philip was Mary's father's name and Robert named my ggrandfather Philip in 1868.

Philip was sentenced to 15 months in Perth prison and there is no sign of him after that in Scotland.

I'm assuming they emigrated somewhere, just don't know where yet, but I'll keep looking.

Once again, many thanks, John,

Kind regards,

Alison