John Taylor of Old Scone
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John Taylor of Old Scone
He was born in June 1788. Any info regarding himself as well as his family - parents, brothers, sisters - will be must appreciated.
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
Hi Taylorofasa and welcome to ![[talkingscot]](./images/smilies/talkingscot.png "[talkingscot]")
Can you tell us where you found his birth date?
Best wishes
Jean
Can you tell us where you found his birth date?
Best wishes
Jean
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
John Taylor was born at Old Scone on 5/7 June 1788. References in SA quoted John's birthday as 5 June 1788. The IGI recorded: "Taylor, John; Father; Taylor. Perth, Scone. Born 7 June 1788".
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The International Genealogical Index (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints)
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The International Genealogical Index (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints)
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
I don't see this one in the Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 database on Family Search now, so perhaps it was a submission. However, there is one that is close and also appears to be on Scotlands People:
John Tailor
christening: 17 Jun 1787 Scone, Perth, Scotland
parents: John Tailor, Jean Stuart
There is a marriage:
John Taylor & Jean Stuart
marriage: 16 Nov 1771 Scone, Perth, Scotland
A parent search for births in Scone between 1770-1800 gives several possible siblings. The records for the following three (and also John's) give both parents' names:
Euphan Taylor christened 15 Dec 1782
Jean Taylor christened 25 Sep 1785
Mary Taylor christened 19 Apr 1789
Earlier ones only give the father's name:
David Taylor christened 6 Sep 1772
Alexander Taylor christened 19 Jun 1774
Margaret Taylor christened 4 Aug 1776
Ann Taylor christened 7 Jun 1778
Jean Taylor christened 15 Oct 1780
You will want to download the original of at least John's christening and his parents' marriage from scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see if there is further information.
All the best,
Sarah
John Tailor
christening: 17 Jun 1787 Scone, Perth, Scotland
parents: John Tailor, Jean Stuart
There is a marriage:
John Taylor & Jean Stuart
marriage: 16 Nov 1771 Scone, Perth, Scotland
A parent search for births in Scone between 1770-1800 gives several possible siblings. The records for the following three (and also John's) give both parents' names:
Euphan Taylor christened 15 Dec 1782
Jean Taylor christened 25 Sep 1785
Mary Taylor christened 19 Apr 1789
Earlier ones only give the father's name:
David Taylor christened 6 Sep 1772
Alexander Taylor christened 19 Jun 1774
Margaret Taylor christened 4 Aug 1776
Ann Taylor christened 7 Jun 1778
Jean Taylor christened 15 Oct 1780
You will want to download the original of at least John's christening and his parents' marriage from scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see if there is further information.
All the best,
Sarah
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
Born in Scone, Perthshire, Scotland, John Taylor on 5 June 1788 - [The International Genealogical Index produced by the Mormons (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) recorded as follows: "Taylor, John; Father; Taylor. Perth, Scone. Born 7 June 1788"] He studied at Gosport under the guidance of the London Missionary Society. After his ordaination in March 1816 at Chichester he left for South Africa in October of that year. There he married a pretty brunette, Antonia Francina van Geysel, born on 3 August 1790, the daughter of Derk Francios van Geysel and Maria Johanna van Geysel, (Nee Van Zwielen), Dutch Burgers of Ceylon. They had 10 children. [The detail is available]
In October 1818 John Taylor resigned from the LMS also informing Lord Charles Somerset, the Governor of the Cape of Good Hope of his decision and of his desire to continue as a minister of the Gospel. Being a fully qualified preacher, the Governor was only too ready to help him as he was anxious to please the Afrikaans-speaking people of the outlying areas of the Colony who were starving for regular spiritual services. He became a minister of the Dutch Reform Church. In 1819 John Taylor was sent to a distant outpost in the Northern Central Area of the Cape Colony. He served this community through the difficult times of the Border Wars and the Great Trek until his death on 18 June 1860
His history, life and work in the UK is still evading us. Up to now we could not even determine who his > parents and/or next of kin were. Is there any change that one of your researchers can page through the document in order to see if his marrage certificate is listed in there. May be this can give us a clue as to who his parents were.John Taylor
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Ds. John Taylor.
Ds. John Taylor (Scone, county Perth, Scotland , in 1778 - Cradock , 21 May 1860 ) was the first pastor of the church NG Beaufort West and then 36 years pastor of the church NG Cradock until his death.
Content [ hide ]
1 Background
2 In Beaufort
3 Church Cradock and death
4 Sources
Background [ edit ]
Taylor is trained in Scotland as pastor of the Presbyterian Church, but it later call to work among the natives of South Africa as a missionary of the London Missionary Society to come to work. So in October 1816 he was in the company of the later famous Robert Moffat and three other ministers, the Rev.. John Evans (from 1818 to 1823 Taylor's predecessor and first minister of the NG Church Cradock ), Kitchingman and Brownlee, with the ship Alacrity sailed to South Africa. The historian Theal describes him as a man with "zeal and ability". With zeal and devotion he served the mission matter to him in 1818 with his band the London Missionary Society break with a Sextet missionaries.
About why he and the missionaries broke, today there is not consensus. Rev. John Campbell says Taylor a broader job search, but it was probably false, because the missionary circles of that time was too large to properly handle. Others argue that Lord Charles Somerset , the governor, persuaded them to the mission field to leave his favorable offers to take ministers of the Dutch Reformed Church to be. The former pastor tejort, as well as the governor's stated policy of the Dutch Church anglicised by importing Scottish ministers , support the latter view. The governor himself had then declared that Reverend. Taylor and others with the London Missionary Society broke because they could not go along with that there were irregularities in some missions have not prevailed. They could all seem hardly identify with the extreme "negrofilistiese" policy of the Society and the "exaggerated and false stories of the mistreatment of the natives by the farmers."
Around the time that the Somerset Taylor a minister in the newly established town Beaufort offered, he married a lady Hollandssprekende, Antonia F. of Gysel, a sister of the second wife of the Rev.. Vos MC of Shimla .
Beaufort [ edit ]
In the same proclamation by the establishment of the Beaufort District announced, is also hereby given of the appointment of the Reverend. Taylor as a minister of the district. In early December 1818 Rev. Taylor already established in Beaufort and his work began. He had not only white members visit and lobbying, but the blacks and with the magistrate overseeing the fledgling settlement Kookfontein, founded as a settlement or reserve the nomadic natives to move them within the boundaries of the Colony and to establish a settled way of life, too. He had to be a minister and missionary for an area as large as the Netherlands be.
Because the government especially expect him to people in the district to seek Reverend. Taylor's task almost superhuman and impossible. In addition, there was no trace of the "decent dwelling" the government to him and his family promised. He had a third-rate house with another family member. There was no church building. Sir John Fraser later told his father, Reverend. Colin Fraser , second minister, as a child, told him: "Religious services were held at a poplar comes near where the present dam wall is, the church, a tent or wagon Sails. " Only in 1820 the congregation gets to leave the service in a house of komdt. Abraham de Klerk hold. Late in the year it became possible. When Mary Moffat, daughter of the missionary Robert Moffat and later the wife of the explorer David Livingstone , Beaufort in February 1820 visit, she described the place where ds. Taylor had to keep services "as only a room in a farmhouse, with two beds in it. Leg I have many odd-lookig places, but never saw one like that." Repeated representations of the council "to" t build a simple building into a serving church "still on deaf ears in the government case and then rev. Taylor in 1823 transferred to Cradock, the church has no church building yet. Furthermore, the governor considered the nature of the district was of such a nature that suitable persons for the position of deacon or elder role, could not be found so that ds. Taylor more than a half years without a consistory on the way to come. Sometimes he was several months of home away with home visits in the different field cornetcies for everyone from house to house to visit, at least 18 months.
Despite the difficulties Ds. Taylor the foundations of the later church Beaufort submitted. He carefully different registers (baptism, marriage, church member) and carefully laid kept of the church's finances. On 11 April 1819 he became the first child to be baptized Kookfontein, shortly after a second "at home" in town. The first communion week 29 to 30 September 1820, when the first members (total of 65) and adopted suggestion. In June 1819, rev. Taylor the first "bedestond" and has since been held monthly prayer meetings (Monday) in progress.
Eighteen years Rev.. Taylor performed his job without a council or assembly in the canonical sense was. The first church council members, appointed by the Magistrate of Graaff-Reinet, on 16 May 1820 by the governor and approved on the same day, the town of Beaufort West as the authorities declared established. The first council consisted of two elders (Bothma and Christiaan MJ Stade) and three deacons (Gysbert Janze Dirk Wouter du Plooy, Brave Goerge Stephen de Beer). After the first board meeting on 29 September 1820 when DLA held the first deacon Beer cashier was. The first sexton was one Frylinck. Already in November 1820 the council decided to four times a year to keep Supper Festival, namely the third Sunday of January, April, July and October The festival begins on Friday, including the adoption of young members who then Saturday during one of the preparatory services proposed. Sunday was the Communion Service and Monday morning had the board meeting held. At the beginning of 1824 rev. Taylor by the governor to Cradock displaced. His last council meeting on January 5 1824 . That's all the council's minutes of his departure rep.
Church Cradock and death [ Edit ]
The NG Church Rev. Cradock. Taylor married and continued for 36 years until his death at the age of 72. The employee of the Kerkbode reported his death was "gentle and quiet". His mortal remains and those of his wife and two daughters rest in the wall of the church in Cradock . He was 41 years in the ministry. During his long tenure, the church in Beaufort and four in the town of Cradock six churches split. Although he was a Scot and principles at the Great Trek was opposed, he as pastor of Cradock strongly advocating for spiritual shaping of the Voortrekkers. In his preaching he was the Dutch language never fully authorize.
Sources [ edit ]
Dreyer, Reverend. A. 1924. Eeufeest Album of the Dutch Reformed Church in South Africa from 1824 to 1924 . Cape Town: Publication of the commission ZA Bijbelvereniging.
Olivier, rev. PL (compiler), Our congregational festival album . Cape Town and Pretoria: DRC Publishers, 1952.
Smith, rev. AP 1945. Memorial Book of the Dutch Reformed Church Beaufort West (1820-1945) . Beaufort West: NG Church Council.
In October 1818 John Taylor resigned from the LMS also informing Lord Charles Somerset, the Governor of the Cape of Good Hope of his decision and of his desire to continue as a minister of the Gospel. Being a fully qualified preacher, the Governor was only too ready to help him as he was anxious to please the Afrikaans-speaking people of the outlying areas of the Colony who were starving for regular spiritual services. He became a minister of the Dutch Reform Church. In 1819 John Taylor was sent to a distant outpost in the Northern Central Area of the Cape Colony. He served this community through the difficult times of the Border Wars and the Great Trek until his death on 18 June 1860
His history, life and work in the UK is still evading us. Up to now we could not even determine who his > parents and/or next of kin were. Is there any change that one of your researchers can page through the document in order to see if his marrage certificate is listed in there. May be this can give us a clue as to who his parents were.John Taylor
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ds. John Taylor.
Ds. John Taylor (Scone, county Perth, Scotland , in 1778 - Cradock , 21 May 1860 ) was the first pastor of the church NG Beaufort West and then 36 years pastor of the church NG Cradock until his death.
Content [ hide ]
1 Background
2 In Beaufort
3 Church Cradock and death
4 Sources
Background [ edit ]
Taylor is trained in Scotland as pastor of the Presbyterian Church, but it later call to work among the natives of South Africa as a missionary of the London Missionary Society to come to work. So in October 1816 he was in the company of the later famous Robert Moffat and three other ministers, the Rev.. John Evans (from 1818 to 1823 Taylor's predecessor and first minister of the NG Church Cradock ), Kitchingman and Brownlee, with the ship Alacrity sailed to South Africa. The historian Theal describes him as a man with "zeal and ability". With zeal and devotion he served the mission matter to him in 1818 with his band the London Missionary Society break with a Sextet missionaries.
About why he and the missionaries broke, today there is not consensus. Rev. John Campbell says Taylor a broader job search, but it was probably false, because the missionary circles of that time was too large to properly handle. Others argue that Lord Charles Somerset , the governor, persuaded them to the mission field to leave his favorable offers to take ministers of the Dutch Reformed Church to be. The former pastor tejort, as well as the governor's stated policy of the Dutch Church anglicised by importing Scottish ministers , support the latter view. The governor himself had then declared that Reverend. Taylor and others with the London Missionary Society broke because they could not go along with that there were irregularities in some missions have not prevailed. They could all seem hardly identify with the extreme "negrofilistiese" policy of the Society and the "exaggerated and false stories of the mistreatment of the natives by the farmers."
Around the time that the Somerset Taylor a minister in the newly established town Beaufort offered, he married a lady Hollandssprekende, Antonia F. of Gysel, a sister of the second wife of the Rev.. Vos MC of Shimla .
Beaufort [ edit ]
In the same proclamation by the establishment of the Beaufort District announced, is also hereby given of the appointment of the Reverend. Taylor as a minister of the district. In early December 1818 Rev. Taylor already established in Beaufort and his work began. He had not only white members visit and lobbying, but the blacks and with the magistrate overseeing the fledgling settlement Kookfontein, founded as a settlement or reserve the nomadic natives to move them within the boundaries of the Colony and to establish a settled way of life, too. He had to be a minister and missionary for an area as large as the Netherlands be.
Because the government especially expect him to people in the district to seek Reverend. Taylor's task almost superhuman and impossible. In addition, there was no trace of the "decent dwelling" the government to him and his family promised. He had a third-rate house with another family member. There was no church building. Sir John Fraser later told his father, Reverend. Colin Fraser , second minister, as a child, told him: "Religious services were held at a poplar comes near where the present dam wall is, the church, a tent or wagon Sails. " Only in 1820 the congregation gets to leave the service in a house of komdt. Abraham de Klerk hold. Late in the year it became possible. When Mary Moffat, daughter of the missionary Robert Moffat and later the wife of the explorer David Livingstone , Beaufort in February 1820 visit, she described the place where ds. Taylor had to keep services "as only a room in a farmhouse, with two beds in it. Leg I have many odd-lookig places, but never saw one like that." Repeated representations of the council "to" t build a simple building into a serving church "still on deaf ears in the government case and then rev. Taylor in 1823 transferred to Cradock, the church has no church building yet. Furthermore, the governor considered the nature of the district was of such a nature that suitable persons for the position of deacon or elder role, could not be found so that ds. Taylor more than a half years without a consistory on the way to come. Sometimes he was several months of home away with home visits in the different field cornetcies for everyone from house to house to visit, at least 18 months.
Despite the difficulties Ds. Taylor the foundations of the later church Beaufort submitted. He carefully different registers (baptism, marriage, church member) and carefully laid kept of the church's finances. On 11 April 1819 he became the first child to be baptized Kookfontein, shortly after a second "at home" in town. The first communion week 29 to 30 September 1820, when the first members (total of 65) and adopted suggestion. In June 1819, rev. Taylor the first "bedestond" and has since been held monthly prayer meetings (Monday) in progress.
Eighteen years Rev.. Taylor performed his job without a council or assembly in the canonical sense was. The first church council members, appointed by the Magistrate of Graaff-Reinet, on 16 May 1820 by the governor and approved on the same day, the town of Beaufort West as the authorities declared established. The first council consisted of two elders (Bothma and Christiaan MJ Stade) and three deacons (Gysbert Janze Dirk Wouter du Plooy, Brave Goerge Stephen de Beer). After the first board meeting on 29 September 1820 when DLA held the first deacon Beer cashier was. The first sexton was one Frylinck. Already in November 1820 the council decided to four times a year to keep Supper Festival, namely the third Sunday of January, April, July and October The festival begins on Friday, including the adoption of young members who then Saturday during one of the preparatory services proposed. Sunday was the Communion Service and Monday morning had the board meeting held. At the beginning of 1824 rev. Taylor by the governor to Cradock displaced. His last council meeting on January 5 1824 . That's all the council's minutes of his departure rep.
Church Cradock and death [ Edit ]
The NG Church Rev. Cradock. Taylor married and continued for 36 years until his death at the age of 72. The employee of the Kerkbode reported his death was "gentle and quiet". His mortal remains and those of his wife and two daughters rest in the wall of the church in Cradock . He was 41 years in the ministry. During his long tenure, the church in Beaufort and four in the town of Cradock six churches split. Although he was a Scot and principles at the Great Trek was opposed, he as pastor of Cradock strongly advocating for spiritual shaping of the Voortrekkers. In his preaching he was the Dutch language never fully authorize.
Sources [ edit ]
Dreyer, Reverend. A. 1924. Eeufeest Album of the Dutch Reformed Church in South Africa from 1824 to 1924 . Cape Town: Publication of the commission ZA Bijbelvereniging.
Olivier, rev. PL (compiler), Our congregational festival album . Cape Town and Pretoria: DRC Publishers, 1952.
Smith, rev. AP 1945. Memorial Book of the Dutch Reformed Church Beaufort West (1820-1945) . Beaufort West: NG Church Council.
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
There was a previous thread about Reverend John Taylor but I don’t think we progressed backwards very far at all. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12824&start=0
All the best,
Alan
All the best,
Alan
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Hi Alan,
I had completely forgotten that 2008 topic and see that I went down the same trail then also! It all seems to hinge on whether there is only one source for the date and place of birth or if that can be corroborated somewhere else. The birth seems to be mentioned in a history of the area, I think. Those can definitely be wrong, as I have seen many times in my own family. I would take a look at the 1787 baptism and see if John's father's occupation is mentioned and if it seems likely he would have been literate and educated his children.
Did you ever find anything about the Rev. David Bogue and John's ordination in Chichester? Surely, if the LMS records survive, there would be more information on John and others who went out under their auspices.
All the best,
Sarah
I had completely forgotten that 2008 topic and see that I went down the same trail then also! It all seems to hinge on whether there is only one source for the date and place of birth or if that can be corroborated somewhere else. The birth seems to be mentioned in a history of the area, I think. Those can definitely be wrong, as I have seen many times in my own family. I would take a look at the 1787 baptism and see if John's father's occupation is mentioned and if it seems likely he would have been literate and educated his children.
Did you ever find anything about the Rev. David Bogue and John's ordination in Chichester? Surely, if the LMS records survive, there would be more information on John and others who went out under their auspices.
All the best,
Sarah
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
Another angle:
DEATH NOTICE 6/9/90 - 6982
Filed 28/06/1860
1 Name of deceased: John Taylor
2 Birthplace of the deceased: Scone, County of Perth, Scotland
3 Names of parents of the deceased: Unknown
4 Age of the deceased: 71 years 11 months 14 days.
5 Condition in life (Occupation): Minister of the Dutch Reformed Church at Cradock
6 Ordinary place of residence: -
7 Married or unmarried, widower or widow: Widower
7a Name of surviving spouse: -
7b Name or names and approx. date of death of previous spouse/s: Antonia Francina Taylor, born Geyzel or Gyzel
8 The day of the decease: On 21st May 1860
9 At what house or where the person died: Parsonage House, Cradock
10 Names of children of deceased, and whether majors or minors (Stating separately those born of different marriages).
1) Johanna Christina, wife of CM Thornhill
2) Nancy Antonia
3) John Michael
4) Elizabeth Magdalena
5) Francina Hendrica Helena married to David Christian
(Jane Agnes Mary died, in her lifetime the wife of the late Dr. RM Armstrong)
All majors
11 Whether the deceased has left any property, and of what kind: -
12 The deceased has left a Will: -
Dated at Cradock this 25th day of May, 1860.
Sgd. JM Taylor
DEATH NOTICE 6/9/90 - 6982
Filed 28/06/1860
1 Name of deceased: John Taylor
2 Birthplace of the deceased: Scone, County of Perth, Scotland
3 Names of parents of the deceased: Unknown
4 Age of the deceased: 71 years 11 months 14 days.
5 Condition in life (Occupation): Minister of the Dutch Reformed Church at Cradock
6 Ordinary place of residence: -
7 Married or unmarried, widower or widow: Widower
7a Name of surviving spouse: -
7b Name or names and approx. date of death of previous spouse/s: Antonia Francina Taylor, born Geyzel or Gyzel
8 The day of the decease: On 21st May 1860
9 At what house or where the person died: Parsonage House, Cradock
10 Names of children of deceased, and whether majors or minors (Stating separately those born of different marriages).
1) Johanna Christina, wife of CM Thornhill
2) Nancy Antonia
3) John Michael
4) Elizabeth Magdalena
5) Francina Hendrica Helena married to David Christian
(Jane Agnes Mary died, in her lifetime the wife of the late Dr. RM Armstrong)
All majors
11 Whether the deceased has left any property, and of what kind: -
12 The deceased has left a Will: -
Dated at Cradock this 25th day of May, 1860.
Sgd. JM Taylor
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
Greetings from New Zealand.
May I ask, has a check been made for any surviving archived records of either the London Mission Society and or the Dutch Reformed Church? It's surprising what odd bits of correspondence gets filed away from time to time.
In a provincial library I found the only 1852 plan that I have, of the original lease that my Gt Grandfather uplifted after arriving in Auckland. Not only did it show the title, but also it's location in relation to several near by roads. The plan being in the original papers of a near by church, that were gifted to the Library Archives for safe keeping, by a later generation of church administrators.
Alan SHARP.
May I ask, has a check been made for any surviving archived records of either the London Mission Society and or the Dutch Reformed Church? It's surprising what odd bits of correspondence gets filed away from time to time.
In a provincial library I found the only 1852 plan that I have, of the original lease that my Gt Grandfather uplifted after arriving in Auckland. Not only did it show the title, but also it's location in relation to several near by roads. The plan being in the original papers of a near by church, that were gifted to the Library Archives for safe keeping, by a later generation of church administrators.
Alan SHARP.
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Re: John Taylor of Old Scone
Hello Sarah & All,
I had completely forgotten about the old thread as well, I stumbled across it while Googling about.
The SOAS Library has a guide to researching missionary ancestors, including those from the LMS, but it doesn’t look particularly promising. (pdf) http://www.soas.ac.uk/library/archives/ ... e76134.pdf
I couldn’t find anything extra about the ordination etc. There’s some information about Rev David Bogue and his Gosport Academy in this pdf document. http://www.affinity.org.uk/downloads/fo ... /20_36.pdf
Rev David Bogue was a Congregational minister. The London Missionary Society wiki describes it as “evangelical Anglicans and Nonconformists, largely Congregationalist in outlook”. John Taylor left the LMS to join the Dutch Reformed Church. Was he ever Presbyterian?
The Old Parish Records are Church of Scotland (Presbyterian), and on average, are not complete records of events, depending on how they survived the ravages of time, occasional sloppy bookkeeping, etc. There’s a description of the condition of Scone OPRs here. https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki ... ,_Scotland
There’s a history of Scottish Congregationalism here. (another pdf)
http://hamilton.urc.org.uk/wp-content/u ... edited.pdf
In Lloyd's Register of British and Foreign Shipping, 1818, there are some details of the Brig Alacrity, the ship that took them to SA. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=TTM ... CDMQ6AEwAA
South Africa Dutch Reformed Church records, including Cradock, are available at FamilySearch but I think it’s a work in progress. https://familysearch.org/search/collect ... ion=AFRICA
All the best,
Alan
I had completely forgotten about the old thread as well, I stumbled across it while Googling about.
The SOAS Library has a guide to researching missionary ancestors, including those from the LMS, but it doesn’t look particularly promising. (pdf) http://www.soas.ac.uk/library/archives/ ... e76134.pdf
I couldn’t find anything extra about the ordination etc. There’s some information about Rev David Bogue and his Gosport Academy in this pdf document. http://www.affinity.org.uk/downloads/fo ... /20_36.pdf
Rev David Bogue was a Congregational minister. The London Missionary Society wiki describes it as “evangelical Anglicans and Nonconformists, largely Congregationalist in outlook”. John Taylor left the LMS to join the Dutch Reformed Church. Was he ever Presbyterian?
The Old Parish Records are Church of Scotland (Presbyterian), and on average, are not complete records of events, depending on how they survived the ravages of time, occasional sloppy bookkeeping, etc. There’s a description of the condition of Scone OPRs here. https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki ... ,_Scotland
There’s a history of Scottish Congregationalism here. (another pdf)
http://hamilton.urc.org.uk/wp-content/u ... edited.pdf
In Lloyd's Register of British and Foreign Shipping, 1818, there are some details of the Brig Alacrity, the ship that took them to SA. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=TTM ... CDMQ6AEwAA
South Africa Dutch Reformed Church records, including Cradock, are available at FamilySearch but I think it’s a work in progress. https://familysearch.org/search/collect ... ion=AFRICA
All the best,
Alan