Roman Catholic Births. Marriages & Deaths.....

Post by **Ina** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:01 am

I found the following information on my Jura site this morning.

"The archivist at the Catholic Archives in Edinburgh has indicated that plans are afoot to digitise the Roman Catholic Baptisms, Marriages and Deaths, Confirmations and Status Animarium. These will be made available on the ScotlandsPeople site".

Ina
Current AG chair

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:43 am

Yes, I was about half way through transcribing St. Mary's (from 1808) when I found out about this plan.

Far as I know all the registers have been sent off for scanning.

Post by **joette** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:55 am

Brilliant news does mean they will be on a seperate register on SP or will they be added to same?
Although as far as I know I have no Catholic ancestry apart from the odd
one who married into the family this could be a potential source of rich data for lots of people.

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:58 am

I had a fascinating meeting with NAS a couple of weeks ago, and can confirm that the project is nearly certain to go ahead, but final discussions on who does what, and, critically, timing had not yet at that point taken place.

While it's possible, maybe even probable, that indexes and images may eventually appear on SP that still has to be finally decided, as has the timescale.

David

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:05 am

Oh but David...anything is possible with the profit SP made!!!

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:12 am

ninatoo wrote:Oh but David...anything is possible with the profit SP made!!!

Ah!, but it's not a GROS project, - it's a National Archives of Scotland project the results from which, at some future date, like the testaments, may be made available on SP.

David

Mykayla's Gran · Post by **Mykayla's Gran** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:48 pm

Ina - YIPPEE!

Regards

Vee

sheilajim · Post by **sheilajim** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:03 pm

Hi All,

I wonder how far back their records go.
After all, all Scots were Roman Catholics up to the 16th or 17th centuries, weren't they?

I know that some of my later ancestors were Roman Catholic, so I hope it will help me.

I also know that some of my ancestors were Free Kirk, whatever that means.

Sorry about my ignorance on the subject.

Regards

Sheila

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:36 pm

sheilajim wrote:Hi All,

I wonder how far back their records go.
After all, all Scots were Roman Catholics up to the 16th or 17th centuries, weren't they?

I know that some of my later ancestors were Roman Catholic, so I hope it will help me.

I also know that some of my ancestors were Free Kirk, whatever that means.

Sorry about my ignorance on the subject.

Regards

Sheila

Good point !!

Sadly, legislation did not permit the registration of RC chapels for public worship until 1791, following on the Reformation in Scotland in 1560, so that it is only after that date that general records of BMDs, confirmations etc., become available.

What might exist in that interval in the records of private chapels, particularly among those members of the aristocracy who were practising Catholics is not easy to access, and wha kens what exists in the archives in the Vatican in relation to travelling priests who risked their lives in Scotland in this period in terms of public worship, - I'm led to believe that there are a number of relevant articles in relevant academic journals addressing this subject.

After that date I'd encourage readers to Google on the terms "Michael Gandy" and "Scotland" in order to come across a number of publications of great interest to those with Roman Catholic roots in Scotland.

In this context, see the parallel thread relating to the digitisation and indexing of 19th century RC records in Scotland.

The "Free Kirk" ?!?!?

Following decades of controversy in relation to "patronage", - the right of the heritor, - the man who paid the minister's stipend to have the right to appoint a new minister, - 40% of the ministers of the Established Church of Scotland walked out of the General Assembly in 1843 and formed their own presbyterian church, - The Free Kirk/Church of Scotland.

There was also parallel controversy in relation to the degree to which the state could interfere in the business of the Church of Scotland, i.e. whether of not, in Scotland, there should or should not be total separation between the government of the country and the government of The Church of Scotland. The eventual outcome is neatly demonstrated by the fact the The Monarch of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Nothern Ireland is only "invited" to attend the annual General Assembly of the Established Church of Scotland, as opposed to being the head of the church, as is the case with the Church of England.

BTW, The Queen is most often represented at the General Assembly by her personally appointed "Commissioner".....

Most of the 1843 Free Kirk congregations, along with other earlier secession presbyterian churches, re-amalgamated with the "Auld Kirk", - the Established Church of Scotland, - in 1929.

David

sheilajim · Post by **sheilajim** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:50 pm

Hi David

Thanks for the information.

It certainly makes me glad that I was born in a western country in the 20th century, when I learn about all the religious strife, that went on earlier.

Yes, I know about the strife in Northern Ireland, but it really isn't the same as before, is it?

Regards

Sheila