Surname Origins.....

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JillP
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Surname Origins.....

Post by JillP » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:31 pm

Hi,

I am trying to find the origin of the Surname that I'm currently researching - VERTH or VERT. We believe it is either French, German or Prussian! but how do I find out for definate??

I've been told there is a place in Germany called Verth, and someone in the family believes that we are descended from the French huegenots....but I cant seem to find any actual information on the surname. Way back in the tree its documented as VERT, changing thru the years to add the H on the end.

If anyone could help me out with where to look etc. I'd be extremely grateful..

Jill x

DavidWW
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Re: Surname Origins

Post by DavidWW » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:35 pm

JillP wrote:Hi,

I am trying to find the origin of the Surname that I'm currently researching - VERTH or VERT. We believe it is either French, German or Prussian! but how do I find out for definate??

I've been told there is a place in Germany called Verth, and someone in the family believes that we are descended from the French huegenots....but I cant seem to find any actual information on the surname. Way back in the tree its documented as VERT, changing thru the years to add the H on the end.

If anyone could help me out with where to look etc. I'd be extremely grateful..

Jill x
Black's "The Surnames of Scotland" has an entry for VERT !!

He gives Hugh VERTH, mealmaker in Edinburgh, 1642, and James VERT, merchant there, 1683, as well as Patrick VERT, indweller in Leith, 1686.

Black comments that Harrison in his "Surnames of the United Kingdom" attributes the origin to (le) Vert, a common place name in France.

The on-line records at scotlandspeople.gov.uk have 39 births, 38 marriages, and 30 deaths for VERT, VERTH, or VERTU in the statutory records that are covered; and 97 births and 59 marriages in the OPR index.

David

JillP
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Post by JillP » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:48 pm

Cheers Davey,

I thought it more likely that it was of French origin than the other two, but didnt know just how to find out!

By the way, its Jill (AKA Iona - from your last course!) Didn't want to contact you directly as I dont want you to get fed up hearing from me!!

Never thought of looking up VERTU....have been checking bck on Vert's and Verth's...not overly common name I dont think...

Orraverybest!!

Jill x x
VERTH, HUME, MCLACHLAN, MCCANN, GIRVAN

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:25 pm

JillP wrote:Cheers Davey,

I thought it more likely that it was of French origin than the other two, but didnt know just how to find out!

By the way, its Jill (AKA Iona - from your last course!) Didn't want to contact you directly as I dont want you to get fed up hearing from me!!

Never thought of looking up VERTU....have been checking bck on Vert's and Verth's...not overly common name I dont think...

Orraverybest!!

Jill x x
Hi Iona !!

I wasn't suggesting that you should consider VERTU!

I searched on the basis of VERT?, and apart from VERT and VERTH, that brings up VERTU which may or may not be connected.

Orraverybest

Davie

mesklin
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Post by mesklin » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:39 pm

Jill

Perhaps the simplest explanation is Green (Vert. French).

Verdun is similar origin and is on Franco-German border (which moved back and forward with depressing regularity during latter half of 19th century). Lots of people had names Germanised/Frenchified, and Vert could become Verth.

Dave

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Post by CatrionaL » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:59 pm

Hullo Jill/Iona

The name VERT is found all over France though the majority of births are in a region I would call the south of the middle, a line stretching from Bordeaux across to the Alps. Gironde, Cantal, Puy de Dôme, Rhône and Bouche de Rhône have the most. Between 1891 and 1940 there were 698 births in all.

All the best.

Catriona