Death Certificates.....

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Death Certificates.....

Post by dmd1164 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:08 pm

I'm curious - does a death certificate in Scotland list the children of the person (providing they are a parent of course)?

The death certificates issued here (in Australia) had the children listed on both grandad's and gran's certificates.

Donna
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Re: Death Certificates

Post by AndrewP » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:12 pm

dmd1164 wrote:I'm curious - does a death certificate in Scotland list the children of the person (providing they are a parent of course)?
Hi Donna,

Only death certificates issued in 1855 show the children of the deceased. Assuming the example I have from my family tree is typical, all 14 children were listed with their names and ages, and the year and age at death for one that pre-deceased his father.

All the best,

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Post by dmd1164 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:15 pm

Thank you Andrew, can anyone shed any light with more recent certificates?

My partner's paternal grandfather passed away in 1960 and we're curious if the children are listed because if they are - it will confirm one way of another if his father had any siblings.

Regards
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Post by Russell » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:32 pm

Hi Donna
No the children are not listed. As Andrew said only in 1855 was there an attempt to give that amount of detail. Certificates from that date flow right across two pages of the Register and the poor Registrar probably had writers cramp filling in all the details in such a cramped space as was allowed.
If you find an 1855 certificate its akin to discovering the Klondyke.
Scottish parents were fairly traditional right into the 20th century so many couples followed the naming patterns. If you know some names which have passed down through the family it may give clues to other siblings.
If you access www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk you may be able to find the birth certificate of the grandparent. This will give his parents names which is a start at least to looking for naming patterns.
This is a pay to view site but 6.00gbp is not excessive to be able to access on-line the actual entries for births, deaths, marriages and census returns fron 1851 to 1901.

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Post by dmd1164 » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:16 am

Thanks Russell

I have the burial details - the date is 1960 so it won't be on the SP site. I know on the 2 death certificates (not registrations) of my grand parents the children were listed on the bottom of the certificate.

My partner's dad stated he was a twin - I was hoping if the children were listed on the actual death certificate it would be worth chasing one down to verify the twin/siblings.

If anyone has any other suggestions????

Regards
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Post by Russell » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:24 am

Back again Donna

If you are in luck and grandfather was a twin a visit to scotlandspeople might have the same success I had. The births of the twins I was looking for in Glasgow were both on the same page of the Register. They only lived for a few hours yet although they died 24 hours apart their deaths also came up on the same Register page.
This is probably about the same time scale you are looking at. 1900 -1910.

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Post by dmd1164 » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:01 am

Hi Russell

I might be out of luck with that one - Thomas McGill was buried in 1960. The story is that his son - Ian was one of a twin - Ian was born in 1930 ish.

But I'll see what I can find. Chances are if there are twins in the line - they should pop up somewhere.

Many thanks

Donna
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Post by joette » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:44 am

Aren't twins registered on their Birth Certificate ie mentioned that they are a twin?I have two sets of twins as brother-in-laws & I am sure that on their Birth Certificates they are noted as such.So find one finding the other should be easy unless off course they were born on different days but their Births would be Registered together I would think.
I think even England register the fact of a Multiple birth.
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Post by rita » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:43 pm

Hello All
I have twins as does my sister and yes twin is written on the birth certificate .
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:02 pm

In the case of multiple births there should be an annotation in the normally empty far left column or to the the left of that, "Twin" or Triplet", but the reason that I write should is that I have very occasionally seen instances where this annotation was missing, not least in the very cases of several days inbetween the births with one registered some days before the other.

David