Robert Johnston.....

Post by **Pandabean** » Mon May 22, 2006 5:35 pm

Hi,

I am looking for a death certificate of Robert Johnston (b. around 1828 - not sure where yet). He must have died between 1881 and 1902. The 1881 date is the marriage of his son John Johnston to Janet Whitson. The 1902 date is the date that Robert's wife (Lilias Deas) died.

His occupation is different, in the death cert it is given as baker (I am also sure there is another refrence to it somewhere else) but in the marriage cert (1881) it is given as something that I can't make out (3 long words).

I did a search on SP and found several people with the same name and died within the range 1881 - 1902.

As for the place of death I am unsure as his wife seems to have died at St Andrews when the family should be in and around Haddington.

Can anyone give me any help on this?

Post by **AnneM** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:01 pm

Hi

Have you tried looking for them in the 1891 census. Lilias is not too common a name so you may be able to find her as you know she was alive then. That would enable you to restrict your period of search if you find her given as married or widowed.

Anne

WilmaM · Post by **WilmaM** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:07 pm

Have you tried looking on the census for him?

Looking for his wife would be easiest [ as you know when she died] and hopefuly, if he was alive, he shows up with her.

You have 2 to choose from [ assuming the 1881 marriage came after that year's census] 1891 & 1901.

That should give you 10 year chunks to search in.

Bear in mind though that he may have been dead in 1881 and it just not noted.

And remember that Johnston can vary in spelling [ Johnstone, Johnston, Johnson, Jonsson etc]

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:07 pm

Hi

Lilias is not too common a name so you may be able to find her as you know she was alive then.

I have loadsa Liliases in my tree - when searching for her be aware that they turn up as Lilias, Lillias, Lilly and Lily - try a Lil* !

best wishes
Lesley

WilmaM · Post by **WilmaM** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:08 pm

Wow - 3 answers all at once !

Post by **AnneM** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:10 pm

Hi again

There are 9 Lilias or Lillias Johnston or Johnstones aged over 40 that I can see. You should have an idea of her age from her DC which would help you narrow it down and also you may have some clue where she is likely to be so you should not have too many records to look at. A couple of them are in Shetland so I'd guess they're not yours or you would have found Robert more easily.

Anne

Post by **Pandabean** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:12 pm

Ok I think I found her on the 1891 census. She is widowed, but I do not recognise the daughter

1891 JOHNSTON LILIAS F 63 ST GILES EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN

Seeing as Robert was born in 1828, I subtracted that from 1891 and came up with an age of 63. This one is the closest one that I can find for Lilias.

Post by **Pandabean** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:15 pm

Pandabean wrote:Ok I think I found her on the 1891 census. She is widowed, but I do not recognise the daughter

1891 JOHNSTON LILIAS F 63 ST GILES EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN

Seeing as Robert was born in 1828, I subtracted that from 1891 and came up with an age of 63. This one is the closest one that I can find for Lilias.

Ok tried the 2 possible Roberts and none of them were the right one. Both 1889. So that Lilias is possibly wrong.

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:09 pm

Pandabean wrote:Hi,

I am looking for a death certificate of Robert Johnston (b. around 1828 - not sure where yet). He must have died between 1881 and 1902. The 1881 date is the marriage of his son John Johnston to Janet Whitson. The 1902 date is the date that Robert's wife (Lilias Deas) died.

His occupation is different, in the death cert it is given as baker (I am also sure there is another refrence to it somewhere else) but in the marriage cert (1881) it is given as something that I can't make out (3 long words).

I did a search on SP and found several people with the same name and died within the range 1881 - 1902.

As for the place of death I am unsure as his wife seems to have died at St Andrews when the family should be in and around Haddington.

Can anyone give me any help on this?

Hello,

I think this could be your Robert and Lillias in 1881 which gives Robert a birth year of 1823 ish. I checked the 1841 census and there is a Lilias Deas age 12 living in Kinross.

Dwelling: Dudgeons Buildings & Shorthope Wynd
Census Place: Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0224013 GRO Ref Volume 689 EnumDist 3 Page 38
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert JOHNSTONE M 58 M Newton, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Insurance Agent
Lilias D. JOHNSTONE M 53 F Kinross, Kinross, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Lizzie T. JOHNSTONE 12 F England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John MC HUGH U 26 M Ireland

There is a death of a Robert Johnston in Inveresk in 1883 who was born in 1823.

Kind regards,
Annette M

Later............
This looks like Robert's birth

ROBERT JOHNSTONE
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 17 AUG 1822 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Father: JOHN JOHNSTONE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH TAYLOR

Post by **Pandabean** » Wed May 24, 2006 2:30 pm

Thank you, that does appear to be them. Lilias was 74 when she died in 1902 and she is 53 on the 1881 census. Also that 3 letter word I couldnt make out was Industrial Insurance Agent. Any idea what this would involve?

Now to find them in the other census with them in it.

Thank you so much.

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