I have got stuck again, but this time with my grandmother x3. Her name is Ann Reid. Born in Crieff, Perth, about 1835. She married William Slater in Glasgow 1861 and was then 26 years old. I have been trying to find her birth cert on the opr's but with out any luck.
Her parents from her marriage cert. are John Reid and Catherine Mcgregor from Crieff and Perth.
Now when I put her in I cant find any Ann with this parentage, but I can find her siblings, all with the right parents. On the LDS again all the siblings are there, but no Ann.
The only Ann I can find is with John Reid and Catherine Straiton who is born 1835, so correct year wrong parent.
Ann Reid Slator died in 1903 and again says that she is the daughter of J. Ried and Catherine Mcgregor.
Is there any way that I could find her as I would like to order her birth cert.
Thanking everyone in advance.
Anner
Any ideas on missing ggg. grandmother's birth.....
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Any ideas on missing ggg. grandmother's birth.....
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Hi Anner the Stat Reg of Births,Marriages & Deaths did not come in until 1855 in Scotland.Before that these events are often recorded in the OPR & it is this that you are referring to.Unfortunatelty they are not always complete or do not hold much info-eg sometimes the Mother is not named.
Having said that they often contain a wealth of info.
Is there any possibility that she was Christened under a different name?
Is there another child same date but different name?Have you ried looking in the IGI/OPR under just the Father's name.?
Perhaps they were living elsewhere or they may not have bothered to have it done or it just wasn't recorded.
Have you tried the 1851/1841 Census when you just might find them all together & this would hopefully allow you to tie all the sibs to the right parents.
Having said that they often contain a wealth of info.
Is there any possibility that she was Christened under a different name?
Is there another child same date but different name?Have you ried looking in the IGI/OPR under just the Father's name.?
Perhaps they were living elsewhere or they may not have bothered to have it done or it just wasn't recorded.
Have you tried the 1851/1841 Census when you just might find them all together & this would hopefully allow you to tie all the sibs to the right parents.
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Hi Joette, and thank you for your reply. I have tried searching for her with just the fathers name, the mothers name, and on just her name but cannot find her.
I have got her on the census's with her family so I know she is there, but just cannot find her birth. It is really frustrating as I have found her parents marriage and have ordered that, I have also ordered her husbands birth cert. and her's is the one I am having most trouble finding.
I notice that you are researching a Ross line, snap, another name that I am researching and mine all come from Dundee. They are also another lot that I have trouble with. But probably because there are a lot of familys and sorting through them is a nightmare, but more because of finding the right Ross's.
Any way I will keep searching and you have given me something to think about.
Regards,
Anner.
I have got her on the census's with her family so I know she is there, but just cannot find her birth. It is really frustrating as I have found her parents marriage and have ordered that, I have also ordered her husbands birth cert. and her's is the one I am having most trouble finding.
I notice that you are researching a Ross line, snap, another name that I am researching and mine all come from Dundee. They are also another lot that I have trouble with. But probably because there are a lot of familys and sorting through them is a nightmare, but more because of finding the right Ross's.
Any way I will keep searching and you have given me something to think about.
Regards,
Anner.
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Hello anner
It is frustrating when some family records are found but not all...especially when the one you want the most is the missing individual! In your case I suspect Ann's birth was never registered or if it was it has not survived for whatever reason. She isn't the only family member missing either! A search for REID in 1841 in Crieff brings up a page of 24 records. A parent search on the IGI for John and Catherine brings up 6 records. Of those 6 only 2 line up with the children present in 1841 and one of those is out by 2 years! There is however Ann, Isobel, and Susan all there in 1841 and none of which I find on the IGI.
I realize this is no help....but it does suggest that there is little else you can do to find her. Having her on the census with the family and having a marriage and death cert state her parents names has got to be some consolation!
Best wishes
Jean
It is frustrating when some family records are found but not all...especially when the one you want the most is the missing individual! In your case I suspect Ann's birth was never registered or if it was it has not survived for whatever reason. She isn't the only family member missing either! A search for REID in 1841 in Crieff brings up a page of 24 records. A parent search on the IGI for John and Catherine brings up 6 records. Of those 6 only 2 line up with the children present in 1841 and one of those is out by 2 years! There is however Ann, Isobel, and Susan all there in 1841 and none of which I find on the IGI.
I realize this is no help....but it does suggest that there is little else you can do to find her. Having her on the census with the family and having a marriage and death cert state her parents names has got to be some consolation!
Best wishes
Jean
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Hi JustJean,
Once again thanks for taking the time to look and reply. As you say it is annoying when you cant find a relative for whatever reason. I think you could be right with not finding Ann, but she isnt the only one that I cant find. I find it really frustrating with the OPR's as I have marriage certs that propably will never be found as well.
But never mind, again, some consolation is that I have the rest of the certs, but would have loved to have the "whole set".
I must say thanks to all on TS, as people have given me so much help on where to look and how, etc.
I only started my family tree in January and have so much info it's really fascinating and now I am hooked.
Again many thanks.
Regards,
Anner.
Once again thanks for taking the time to look and reply. As you say it is annoying when you cant find a relative for whatever reason. I think you could be right with not finding Ann, but she isnt the only one that I cant find. I find it really frustrating with the OPR's as I have marriage certs that propably will never be found as well.
But never mind, again, some consolation is that I have the rest of the certs, but would have loved to have the "whole set".
I must say thanks to all on TS, as people have given me so much help on where to look and how, etc.
I only started my family tree in January and have so much info it's really fascinating and now I am hooked.
Again many thanks.
Regards,
Anner.
Researching Wilson, Reid, S(c)later and Ross in Glasgow. Mcgregor, Ross, White, Pirie, Gaffney, and Math(i)e(w)son and Ross in Dundee and Perth.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.
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Re: Any ideas on missing ggg. grandmother's birth.
A couple of thoughts, probably without merit, but ...?anner wrote: ...
Her parents from her marriage cert. are John Reid and Catherine Mcgregor from Crieff and Perth.
Now when I put her in I cant find any Ann with this parentage, but I can find her siblings, all with the right parents. On the LDS again all the siblings are there, but no Ann.
The only Ann I can find is with John Reid and Catherine Straiton who is born 1835, so correct year wrong parent.
Ann Reid Slator died in 1903 and again says that she is the daughter of J. Ried and Catherine Mcgregor ...
Anner
Is Ann the oldest child? Would she have been born to her mother before her mother married? Would Catherine Mcgregor have been Catherine m.s. Straiton, or would she possibly have been married previously?
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Hi Frances, Many thanks for your thoughts. Ann is the second eldest child, well from what I can make out. As for Catherine Mcgregor, she definately wasn't a Straiton as I have her marriage cert and her father was John Mcgregor. I did think of that as well so ordered the cert as it is in the opr, and it disproved that one for me.
I dont seem to have much luck with the opr's as a lot os the certs would be there and I cannot find them
. But never mind, and although it is frustrating, I do seem to find the right peoples marraiges and death certs after that so it does verify a few things along the way.
Again thank you for your help.
Regards
Anner.
I dont seem to have much luck with the opr's as a lot os the certs would be there and I cannot find them
. But never mind, and although it is frustrating, I do seem to find the right peoples marraiges and death certs after that so it does verify a few things along the way.Again thank you for your help.
Regards
Anner.
Researching Wilson, Reid, S(c)later and Ross in Glasgow. Mcgregor, Ross, White, Pirie, Gaffney, and Math(i)e(w)son and Ross in Dundee and Perth.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.
Yorkshire: Butterworth, Todd, Angell, Bearpark and Nutbrown. To name but a few.