wedding certificate after "publication" help pleas

[eilidh]

Hello,
I am hoping someone can enlighten me as to what the terminology after "Publication" means. I have obtained a copy of my g-grandmothers wedding certificate which states she was married 23rd September 1901 at 14 Circus Drive, Glasgow, after Publication, according to the forms of Church of Scotland. Is after Publication similar to after Banns, and how long would the couple have to wait after Publication before they could get married?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, many thanks

[Russell]

Hi Eilidh

'After Publication' usualy is a reference to the Posting of Banns. Some churches actually had a notice board where the page relating to the Banns could be posted as well as being decalred from the pulpit. I think that the word 'publication' came into use when the typewriter meant that the notice could be typed out more formally.

Initially Banns had to be read three times to give everybody a chance to object and if bride and groom were from different parishes they were read in both parishes - which is why LDS sometimes have multiple entries for a marriage all with different dates.
Thank goodness the process has been simplified nowadays. Called once, in one parish.
There was no set time between the Banns being called and the actual wedding although it tended to be sooner rather than later.
If anyone knows the church rules governing this I'd be as interested to know as Eilidh.

Russell

[DavidWW]

Hello,
I am hoping someone can enlighten me as to what the terminology after "Publication" means. I have obtained a copy of my g-grandmothers wedding certificate which states she was married 23rd September 1901 at 14 Circus Drive, Glasgow, after Publication, according to the forms of Church of Scotland. Is after Publication similar to after Banns, and how long would the couple have to wait after Publication before they could get married?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, many thanks

Basically, yes, it's similar, as there couldn't have been a marriage according to the forms of the CoS unless there had been banns, or, after 1878, publication at the registrar's office.

As far as I'm aware, if there had been no objection within something like 48 or 72 hours of the last crying of the banns or the publication then the marriage could proceed.

The use of the form of wording is probably due to the Marriage Notice (Scotland) Act 1878. This Act provided for the publication of notice of intended marriage on a registrar's notice board as an alternative preliminary to proclamation of banns and was in force almost in its original form until 1978, when it was replaced by provisions of the Marriage (Scotland) Act, 1977, but, up until another Act in 1939, the marriage could only be carried out by a minister (irregular marriages apart!).

David

[Russell]

Hi David

Thanks for that!

Russell

[DavidWW]

Hi David

Thanks for that!

Russell

Nae prob.

If I'd been able to find the date of that blinking 1878 act earlier, I'd have been before you, but it's buried so deeply in the GROS site that it took me quite a time tp locate it, never mind that I couldn't resist going down a few interesting side tracks on the way, - e.g. I'd never seen this before .............. http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/statisti ... ter-2.html .

The list of the legislation is at http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/files/history.pdf

David

[eilidh]

Hi David & Russell, many thanks for your input. I have just found out that my g-grandfather died in 1901. My g-grandmother disappeared shortly after his death (we thought the grieving widow), but last week I found on SP that she re-married 4 months after his death. Her marriage certificate stating after "Publication" etc and that she was a spinster, listing her maiden name, when in fact she was a widow. I always thought that in those times a period of mourning of 12 months was common. So please correct me if I am wrong, what you are saying is that the Marriage Notice (Scotland) Act 1878 provided for the publication of notice of intended marriage on a registrar's notice board as an alternative preliminary to proclamation of banns, and if there had been no objection within something like 48 or 72 hours of the last crying of the banns or the publication, then the marriage could proceed. So in other words g-grandmother could have married within days of publication.

Thank you so much for helping me. I really appreciate your help.
Bye Helen

[DavidWW]

Hi David & Russell, many thanks for your input. I have just found out that my g-grandfather died in 1901. My g-grandmother disappeared shortly after his death (we thought the grieving widow), but last week I found on SP that she re-married 4 months after his death. Her marriage certificate stating after "Publication" etc and that she was a spinster, listing her maiden name, when in fact she was a widow. I always thought that in those times a period of mourning of 12 months was common. So please correct me if I am wrong, what you are saying is that the Marriage Notice (Scotland) Act 1878 provided for the publication of notice of intended marriage on a registrar's notice board as an alternative preliminary to proclamation of banns, and if there had been no objection within something like 48 or 72 hours of the last crying of the banns or the publication, then the marriage could proceed. So in other words g-grandmother could have married within days of publication.

Thank you so much for helping me. I really appreciate your help.
Bye Helen

Hi Helen

You've got it in one

David