jane morgan/marshall.....

[joyce]

hello
i have just some birth records of my g.g grandmother but not sure on the year ,in 1841 she was jane morgan married to andrew bennett morgan,i have her maiden name as marshall,in 1841 she was 25 so i thought she was boer about 1816 ,i have one birth 14 april 1818 father
william marshall/christian smith fr112 manor,but not sure if its her also could anyone tell me when it has sex which has f some have u,hope some can help got all these paid to view from scotlandspeople.thank you for any help .joyce

[AndrewP]

My understanding of the gender given on the OPR index is, the obvious ones m=male and f=female. If the OPR did not specify son or daughter, no assumptions were made, so u=unspecified or unknown.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

[joyce]

hi andrew
thanks for replying,but what i realy want to find out if jane marshalls parents were william marshall /christrian smith fr112 parish manor april 1818,or april 1816 alexander marshall/jane scott fr3390 parish canong.edinbur.as i have now run out of units,can you help thank you .joyce

[AndrewP]

Hi Joyce,

What you need to find is the death certificate of Jane Morgan (ms. Marshall). I guess you have the 1873 death certificate of Andrew Bennet Morgan, marine stoker, widower of Jane Marshall. Their marriage was in Leith. His death was in Leith. I found no obvious sign of her death on ScotlandsPeople. Son James registered the death. I found no sign of his birth on the IGI.

Do you know when she died? Could it have been pre-1855? (hence no death certificate).

Also, Andrew's parents were given as James Morgan and Catherine Morgan (ms. Murray). No sign of Andrew's birth on the IGI, but there is a probable marriage for his parents (record of banns called in both of their parishes).

JAMES MORGAN / KATHARINE MORRAY Marriage: 01 AUG 1790 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
and
JAMES MORGAN OR MORRISON / KATHARINE MURRAY: 01 AUG 1790 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

[joyce]

hi andrew
i have just sent for marriage cert of jane marshall to andrew bennett morgan they were married in april 1835,this one was my g.g.grandparents and there children were as follows
cathrine murray morgan 21 jan 1844 south leith ,midlothian
joan cowan morgan 6 feb 1842 south leith
william marshall morgan 12 dec 1839 south leith
andrew morgan1881 england
now in 1841 i have
jane morgan 25 seamans wife outside census county1841
james carson morgan 5midlothian
william m morgan 3 midlothian
andrew b moegan1 midlothian
euphemia williamson 30 sewer widow midlothian
euphemia cowan 70 dependent outside census county 1841
as you may notice my g.g.grandfather and my g,grandfather both had the same names ,i did,nt no about my g,g, being astoker and i dont have his death cert,but thank you for your help,i had printed 5pages of janes birth but i dont no her parents names.joyce

[AndrewP]

Hi Joyce,

There is another Andrew Bennet Morgan death in Leith. In 1865 Andrew Bennet Morgan, age 23 hours, son of James Cowan Morgan and Mary Darge Morgan (ms. Melrose), died in Leith. This James C Morgan is the same one as signed the other Andrew Bennet Morgan's death certificate in 1873. I take it this James C Morgan is the James Carson Morgan of c1835. The online IGI gives 6 children to James Morgan and Mary Melrose between 1863 and 1873 (there may be more later, the IGI extraction of Scottish births stops at 1874/75).

The online IGI gives

• WILLIAM MARSHALL MORGAN - Birth: 26 NOV 1837 South Leith, Midlothian
  ANDREW MORGAN - Christening: 12 DEC 1839 South Leith, Midlothian
  JOAN COWAN MORGAN - Christening: 06 FEB 1842 South Leith, Midlothian
  CATHRINE MURRAY MORGAN - Christening: 21 JAN 1844 South Leith, Midlothian

These children are all listed as to Andrew Bennet Morgan and Ann Marshall. This list differs slightly from the group that you listed. Plainly it is the same family, just be careful of the mother's first name, it seems to vary on different documents. From that information, her elusive death certificate could be listed as Jane/Jean/Jeanie or Ann/Anne/Annie, or some other variation.

All the best,

Andrew Patersom