Just found a Diamond birth in Wigton 1901 I think but the weird thing is there is no forename listed.I have never seen this before any clues as to why?
I thought both surname & forename would have to be Registered at same time.As it's not "my" Diamond i didn't check to see if there was perhaps a corresponding death but surely you would still give the wain a name?
If it were a more modern birth I would be thinking "intersex" where most children are given a name which could be used by either sex eg Chris.
He is registered most definetly as Male & by his father.
Birth Registered without a forename
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joette
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Birth Registered without a forename
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins
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Hi Joette,
The ones that I have seen with no name on a birth certificate, are usually followed by a death certificate of that child as a baby of less than a week old (sometimes less than a day old). The birth and death are sometimes registered on the same day for these ones, presumably in the same visit ti the registrar's office.
All the best,
AndrewP
The ones that I have seen with no name on a birth certificate, are usually followed by a death certificate of that child as a baby of less than a week old (sometimes less than a day old). The birth and death are sometimes registered on the same day for these ones, presumably in the same visit ti the registrar's office.
All the best,
AndrewP
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DavidWW
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It happens very occasionally.
Most often in a situation where it was considered to be highly unlikely that the child would survive, and hadn't been baptised.
In this case, the matching death record shows that this male child only survived for 11 hours after birth.
In a proportion of situations involving such a very early death, the parents would already have chosen, and then registered the given name, but it was perfectly in accordance with the registration laws for there to be no given name registered.
(When a child survived in a situation where the survival initially appeared to be unlikely, it was a quite normal and acceptable procedure in terms of the laws applying to statutory registration for the given name to be added at a later date via an entry in the Register of Corrected Entries.)
David
Most often in a situation where it was considered to be highly unlikely that the child would survive, and hadn't been baptised.
In this case, the matching death record shows that this male child only survived for 11 hours after birth.
In a proportion of situations involving such a very early death, the parents would already have chosen, and then registered the given name, but it was perfectly in accordance with the registration laws for there to be no given name registered.
(When a child survived in a situation where the survival initially appeared to be unlikely, it was a quite normal and acceptable procedure in terms of the laws applying to statutory registration for the given name to be added at a later date via an entry in the Register of Corrected Entries.)
David
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My gg grandmother's birth registry had no given name initially either when she was registered in November 1855. It was added, presumably after her baptism, in March 1856.
Maybe your Diamond was registered like my gg grandmother and then died soon after.
Kathy
Maybe your Diamond was registered like my gg grandmother and then died soon after.
Kathy
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