What do you make of information on death certificate

[dnowakowski1]

I cannot find a birth record that goes along with information contained on August 27th, 1870 death reord. I would like someones opinion (once again) as to where I should look next based on the following information
Text of death certificate reads:
George Stewart or Edmonston (notice the "or")
Pauper, formerly an iron worker married to Janet Bain.
Died August 27, 1870, Stewarts Lane Kirkcaldy
Father George Edmonston, Seaman Royal Navy (deceased)
Mother Isobel Edmonston MS Stewart (deceased)
77 years (that would make birth about 1793)
Reported by Eleanor Stewart, daughter.
This is the first time I have seen the name Edmonston. George's marriage certificate and all the census say Stewart. 1841 census state born 1801 Scotland, 1851 census state born 1801 Midlothian, Edinburgh and 1861 census states 1794 St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh

Since I can't find birth record for George Stewart I am wondering if this was an illegitimate birth and his mothers name is Isobel Stewart or did she remarriy someone named Edmonston and Stewart was her first husbands name.
Hopefully there is a sleuth out there that can help me put it together.
Thanks,
Janet

[LesleyB]

Hi Janet
Do you know when and where George and Janet Bain married?

Best wishes
Lesley

[dnowakowski1]

George Stewart and Janet Bain married Sept. 18/1835 in Clackmannan where they stayed until sometime between 1851 and 1861 they moved to Kirkcaldy.
I should have said I viewed the record or their marriage in the Clackmannan Register of Marriages not Marriage Certificate. The register say's Janet Bean although everything else say's Bain (Birth, Death).
The register states they posted Banns and were married. Where would I find the Banns and would it give parents names? I can only find one reference to the marriage in the O.P.R. and that is the one I am referencing here.
Regards,
Janet

[Jack]

Hi Janet,
I dare say you've looked at this George.
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GEORGE EDMISTON - Christening: 25 NOV 1794 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Parents:
GEORGE EDMISTON
ISOBELA STEWART
--
Jack

[dnowakowski1]

No, but I will look now. I can't say it enough, this sight is the best. I spend a whole day looking and boom!!!!!! Someone else finds somethingt right away. I know that I should walk away and come back with a refreshed pair of eyes but I always get caught up in the hunt and can't let it go.
I was editing my previous post when your reply popped up.
Regards, Janet

[dnowakowski1]

Jack,
I looked at the record you suggested and it only opens up a whole new mystery. The document is the Register of Baptisms St. Cuthberts 1794 and it is the very first entry but you can tell it was squeezed in before the next entry and it is obvious it was added after and not before the subsequent entry. It is in different handwriting etc..
Document states: November 25th
Edmiston - George Edmiston -Sailor or Tailor (I am going with Tailor) Stevens Mills and Isobela Stewart his spouse had a son born 15th Currt , named George.
This entry has brackets around it and is the only entry not witnessed by the congregation, hmmmm.
Can I post this record for someone else to look at? What does Currt mean? It is on all of the records on this page. Is is possibly Current?
This still doesn't satisfy the question of why he would go by Stewart and not Edmiston or Edmonston.
I was going to paint my bathroom but now I am intrigued.
An afterthought, George Stewarts daughter said on his death cert. George Edmonston was a Sailor. Is Stevens Mills a place? I was thinking it was a factory
Regards, Janet

[trish1]

Hi Janet

I think the Currt means Current and relates to the date. Whatever the last mentioned month (or the month at the top of the page) - the 15th of the current month

Stevens Mills would probably be where he lived - a place/property/parish - I am not good at Scottish Geography, I'm sure Jack and Lesley would know that one.

Trish

[Russell]

Hi Janet

I can't give a definitive answer on Stevens Mills since nothing came up Googling it in, but St Cuthberts back then was a huge area almost all around the Town of Edinburgh with the Church of St Cuthberts being at the extreme Western end of what is now Princes Street. The parish covered an area that would be served by the port of Leith and joined the parishes of Leith so there were all sorts of Mills and manufactories in the parish. There were farms and flour mills and small clusters of cottages associated with the different mills.
I couldn't open up http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ for some reason to take a closer look, but it may be worth a slow pan across one of the maps of the area in case it is mentioned and marked.

Russell

[dnowakowski1]

Thanks everyone, I will get back to it later tonight. Right now I must paint my bathroom. The two minutes I was going to spend to see if I had any replies to my post has now turned into 3 1/2 hours. Time flies when you are having fun!!
Janet

[LesleyB]

Hi Janet
I have note of a James Edmonstone in the Leith area, a shipmaster, who died in 1825 (he was married to my "half third great grand-aunt"). There seem to be a few Edmonstones around in that general area. Not even having seen it, my guess would be sailor based on the Edmonstones I know of, though I may be wrong.

Where would I find the Banns and would it give parents names? I can only find one reference to the marriage in the O.P.R. and that is the one I am referencing here.

The only note of them, as far as I'm aware, would be in the OPR which you have seen. I doubt a separate record of the banns would exist - in most, if not all cases, they would have been spoken, announced during a Sunday service, not printed in those days. Often, if the bride and groom were from different parishes, the mention of the banns would be made in the OPR for both parishes and if you are lucky, one session clerk may have included more detail than the other.

As to maps and places/placenames in Edinburgh, Andrew's yer man fur that!

Best wishes
Lesley