Yes, I understand that but in 1917 my bloke was only 30.
I would have thought that as a young and apparently able bodied man he would have been called upon to go and fight.
Carole.
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Currie
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Hello Carole,
If his fare’s been paid by the Admiralty and he’s listed as RNR or Royal Navy Reserve it should be fairly safe to say that he was in the RNR. I’m not sure whether military people always put their temporary military pastime on things like marriage certificates even if they were in uniform when the event took place. Railway Porter may well have been his permanent or proper job and I’d imagine that would be the answer many would give.
The funny thing is that there was an occupation known as “Admiralty Porter” and in fact it’s mentioned three times in the London Times, 1838, 1922 and 1960. There are also Porters with jobs with the Admiralty mentioned a few times in the London Gazette. I think it was to do with Navy hospitals. But all of the former may have nothing to do with anything. A Navy has many shore establishments and many personnel who don’t go to sea.
But why would he get a free trip to the USA when he was no longer in the RNR? The Ship had only just come out of Requisition back into civilian service. This was only about its second voyage since then. Maybe he was serving on the ship with the RNR during the requisition period and the transfer to a fully civilian crew hadn’t been completely finalised. Maybe the discharge took effect at the end of the voyage and he was in the pay of the Admiralty until then rather than part of the crew paid by the shipping line.
Just guessing,
Alan
If his fare’s been paid by the Admiralty and he’s listed as RNR or Royal Navy Reserve it should be fairly safe to say that he was in the RNR. I’m not sure whether military people always put their temporary military pastime on things like marriage certificates even if they were in uniform when the event took place. Railway Porter may well have been his permanent or proper job and I’d imagine that would be the answer many would give.
The funny thing is that there was an occupation known as “Admiralty Porter” and in fact it’s mentioned three times in the London Times, 1838, 1922 and 1960. There are also Porters with jobs with the Admiralty mentioned a few times in the London Gazette. I think it was to do with Navy hospitals. But all of the former may have nothing to do with anything. A Navy has many shore establishments and many personnel who don’t go to sea.
But why would he get a free trip to the USA when he was no longer in the RNR? The Ship had only just come out of Requisition back into civilian service. This was only about its second voyage since then. Maybe he was serving on the ship with the RNR during the requisition period and the transfer to a fully civilian crew hadn’t been completely finalised. Maybe the discharge took effect at the end of the voyage and he was in the pay of the Admiralty until then rather than part of the crew paid by the shipping line.
Just guessing,
Alan
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Montrose Budie
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If someone had served in the Royal Navy, they automatically went into the reserve when they were discharged.
If their occupation was connected to the sea, e.g. the merchant marine, coastguard etc., then they were put into the RNR - Royal Naval Reserve.
If their occupation didn't have a maritime connection then they were put into the RNVR, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve.
Yachting at the weekend didn't count, and meant the RNVR !
mb
If their occupation was connected to the sea, e.g. the merchant marine, coastguard etc., then they were put into the RNR - Royal Naval Reserve.
If their occupation didn't have a maritime connection then they were put into the RNVR, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve.
Yachting at the weekend didn't count, and meant the RNVR !
mb