Scotland & France

[drapadew]

Hi Dennis.
I have just lately finished a book written by John Guy, entitled.
"My Heart is my own".
In my mind this is one of the best books that I have read on the life of
Mary Queen Of Scots.
It covers her life from Scotland to the French Courts,her upbringing and marriage in France,her return to Scotland,Her loves and sorrows and her conflics with Elisabeth.
The Auld Alliance is explained quite readily.
I see that the book is obtainable through Amazon .co.uk.
About 8 Pounds used
TDH

[morgano]

"This site is moderated by common sense and good Scots manners."

Some people here seem to have forgotten those simple rules. Being rude about the English isn't good manners.

[morgano]

Sorry, drapadew, I did mean to add that I fully agree about "My Heart Is My Own". It's a superb book and left me feeling much more sympathetic to Mary than I had previously.

[Dennis]

Are we talking about a Scottish surname prominant in France or a name of French origin which has been common in Scotland.

Its the Surname Lennox, which I see a lot of on Geneanet, in France; sometimes they are De Lennox.


dennis

[bleckie]

I remember going into a cafe in France to hear an argument between a female with a broad Home Counties English accent and the person behind the bar the female and her party left not being able to make him understand what it was they wanted, I then tried but being a typicle scot and not having a pechant for languages the only word I new was Escosse the person behind the bar replied thats alright mate what would you like, he spoke better english than I did.The auld alliance is alive and kicking.

Good Morning All
It was not my intention to upset anyone with the above recollection of an incident that happened in 2002
As someone who has spent the biggest part of my adult live in uniform serving Queen and country I probably have more English friends and friends from other nations than I do Scottish ones.
Her indoors will get a good laugh at this one as she was born in deepest darkest Bath.
Once again I apologise if I ruffled anyone’s feathers.

Yours Aye
BruceL

[Currie]

For the information of us foreigners where exactly was the affront, was it the reference to female rather than person, is there something derogatory about referring to someone as having an English accent, does the term “home counties” have anything to do with it, is it something to do with being in France or is it the inference that the English are not very good at communicating with the French or perhaps that the English are argumentative or is it all of the above.

Pardon my ignorance but I’m completely at a loss.

Alan

[Ann In the UK]

the English are argumentative

We are NOT argumentative! How DARE you imply such a thing. I don't know where you got that idea from! Or was it was just an assumption. Well you've got a bloomim' cheek! It's utter nonsense I tells ya, utter nonsense.... er... I mean...nothing. Never mind.




(I'm mystified as to where the offending insult is supposed to have occurred in this thread too. But, for future reference, despite appearances - 'specially my funny and deceptive accent - I'm not b****** English! But given we've been here so long, 150+ years, I've think I've earned the right to say: take the your best shot. I'm big enough and ugly enough to take it )

[Andrew C.]

After a quick google it would appear that Lennox does derive from De Lennox and must be Norman in origin.

I have asked on here before about the origin of my Cowie suname, and the answers pointed to a Gaelic origin but curiously I stumbled across the surname De Coey which is close in pronounciation to the North East Cowie. As Cowie is a sept of Clan Fraser which is Norman in origin I wondered if there was a connection there.