Marriage: James Robertson & Margt Johnston

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:11 pm

No, it isn't is it?

I think I found James living with another family, working as a mechanic in Glasgow in 1841, but no sight of William yet. Wonder if he is with his grandparents?

Carol

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:15 pm

Here they are in 1841 - no Margaret but looks like his mother was still alive.

Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 15
Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Mungo
Folio: 130 Page: 14
Address: Castle St, West Side

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ROBERTSON James M 45 Engineer Lanarkshire Address: Sommervils Clos
ROBERTSON William M 9 Lanarkshire Address: Sommervils Clos
ROBERTSON Jenat F 70 Housekeeper Lanarkshire Address: Sommervils Clos

In 1851 they are still at Castle Street but no Janet. So it looks likely that Margaret died before 1841.

Regards,
Annette

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:18 pm

Good find Annette!

I was lost in all those Williams!

Carol

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:25 pm

The SP Deaths and Burials OPR's have about 10 possible Margaret Robertsons in the 1834 to 1841 period in Glasgow. Nothing to give a hint on any of them and that's too many for me to buy!

Carol

Post by **SarahND** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:37 pm

speleobat2 wrote:The SP Deaths and Burials OPR's have about 10 possible Margaret Robertsons in the 1834 to 1841 period in Glasgow. Nothing to give a hint on any of them and that's too many for me to buy!

And if she died in Old Monkland, say at William's birth, then we're out of luck, since there are no surviving death records from that time

Sarah

philrob · Post by **philrob** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:42 pm

Dear Readers,

To say I am overwhelmed is understating the case! The content of your replies and your willingness to offer help is tremendous. Thank you all.
I will go through all the replies and try to answer any queries that arise.

Firstly to LesleyB - James's death certificate states that his wife Margaret is deceased - James died on April 11 1863
To SarahND - as far as I know I think that Matthew and William were the only children although somebody did point out to me that there may have been a Janet born approximately 1836 or so. This name would fit as James's mother was Janet Ross. I notice that in the 1841 census there is a Janet Robertson listed as a housekeeper aged 70. This may have been James mother, although I would expect her to be described as a "Grandmother" not as a housekeeper!
On his son, William's birth notice, James is described as "Locomotive Driver" He would have probably worked for one of the independent companies that were later incorporated into the Caledonian Railway. Unfortunately, there are no staff records available to verify which one.
This position fits in with his later description as an "Engine Smith" in the 1861 Census. the comment from speleobat2 about James possibly being injured on the railway is very thought provoking.

I have directed some comments above to individuals eg SarahND and LesleyB but I want to thank you all again for your discussion which has been so illuminating. I hope that I can offer help in some ways in the future to you. I am developing a reasonable knowledge of Australian records so please do not hesitate if you think I may be able to help you.

Best Regards,

philrob in Western Australia

philrob · Post by **philrob** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:43 pm

The Margaret Johnston Robertson death I referred to in an earlier posting is as follows.
Margaret Johnstone Robertson died March 8 1860 (aged 70) in the Barnhill Workhouse, Springburn from Chronic Bronchitis.
She is buried in Light Hill Cemetery
She was the daughter of James and Sarah Johnston (nee Miller)
She is also described as a widow and a pauper. The first of these last two points would be incorrect if this was the right Margaret as her husband did not die until 1863. I wonder whether possibly she was a separated wife, unfortunately cast aside from her family? Very sad if that is indeed what happened.

Is there any way of checking the burial record at the cemetery?

Philrob in Western Australia

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:49 pm

Strangely enough I had put this family's names in my book to check for poorhouse applications.

Do you have the application or are the details just from the death entry?

Regards,
Annette

philrob · Post by **philrob** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:08 pm

Dear Nelmit,

Only from the death certificate entry.

Philrob in Western Australia

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:10 pm

philrob wrote:Dear Nelmit,

Only from the death certificate entry.

Philrob in Western Australia

Can't promise when but I'll have a look at the application.

Regards,
Annette

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