Semple

scottishMisty · Post by **scottishMisty** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:48 pm

Hi

Hellen married Robert Whyte in Houston 1870 her mother was alive but her father was Deceased
I found her after she got married living in Coatbridge Merry Street
Cheers Jan

grannysrock · Post by **grannysrock** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:03 pm

"(Inaugural Addresses by Lords Rectors of the University of Glasgow" by John Barras Hay published in 1839 , so hopefully he was alive ( although perhaps not after reading it .... )
Sorry what do you mean
I hope its nothing bad

Sorry Jan I was just trying to make a joke ( a poor one at that ) about how scintillating or not a read "Inaugural Addresses by Lords Rectors of the University of Glasgow" would be. Didn't mean to worry you about its contents . The entire book is available to view on the Google Books search
http://books.google.com/books?id=MDU5uA ... yAS7uYn7Cg
and Alexander Semple isn't mentioned except for being a subscriber .
I feel I should read it all now as punishment !

I also should apologise to John Barras Hay and the Lords Rectors - if you and any other late authors are reading this from high above , I am very grateful you wrote anything down - those of us who seek to understand the past are all profiting from your written words .

Sally

scottishMisty · Post by **scottishMisty** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:15 pm

Hi grannysrock

No worries if there were bad its is history after all, sometimes you dig up stuff you would keep to your family members
I have not found anything in my family Yet
but in time maybe i will dig up someone that done something different
thanks for the link to the book I have had a look at the book that is more or likely to be him
Cheers Jan

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:34 am

Jan,

Did you ever find a death certificate for Jane Caldwell Semple? There should be one if she was still alive in 1870 for Hellen's marriage.

I found Helen and Robert and their family on the 1880 Census under name of White. They were in Cambuslang by then at the East Farm Labourer cottage.

From the 1891 Census it looks like the first three children Margaret 1872, William 1873 and Alexander 1875 were all born in Houston. Helen (Jr.) 1879 and James 1882 were both born in Cambuslang.

I thought maybe Helen's mother might be close by, but haven't been able to sort her out from all the other Jane Caldwells and Jane Semples.

If you haven't found a marriage OPR for Alexander and Jane, it's possible that they were never married. Or Alexander might have died soon after Helen was born. Or he might have been a soldier, etc. I just have a hard time believing that he was around Renfrewshire, but not showing up on some kind of record since he was a surgeon!

Carol

karenmcc · Post by **karenmcc** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:43 am

Hi All,

from a free search on Ancestry 1851 census. There is an Helen T CALDWELL bc1838 in Renfrewshire, mothers name Jean also a William bc 1850. There is and extracted birth for what looks like this William, born to Jean CALDWELL in 1849 no father mentioned. I don't have full access to Ancestry, maybe someone who does could look at this family.

Karen

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:38 pm

karenmcc wrote:Hi All,

from a free search on Ancestry 1851 census. There is an Helen T CALDWELL bc1838 in Renfrewshire, mothers name Jean also a William bc 1850. There is and extracted birth for what looks like this William, born to Jean CALDWELL in 1849 no father mentioned. I don't have full access to Ancestry, maybe someone who does could look at this family.

Karen

Yup, appears to be the same Jane as we found in 1841 and 1851. Jane is with son William in 1861 and 1871 living at Kilmacolm.

Regards,
Annette

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:44 pm

Here's some more details:

If you look at the 1841 Census there is an Agnes Robertson age 15 living with Jane Caldwell and Helen Semple.

On the 1851 Census, if you click on (see others on page) at the same address are Janet Caldwell b. 1787 Embroiderer, Helen Robertson and Agnes Robertson now age 25. Jane/Jean Caldwell is a sewer in 1841 and an embroiderer in 1851 and son William is 1 year old.

There are a couple of very young Semples, Alexander and Margaret who are each living with different families and no relatives named Semple with them. I'll have to go check which census. I think it was 1841, but I didn't write it down! They may or may not be relevant.

Carol

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:02 pm

It was the 1841 Census and there appears to be a family of Semples--Mrs. Semple 30 and John 4, Peter 3, Gald 2, Margaret 1 living with John Hepburn, Shoemaker in Kilmalcom.

Alexander 2, is living with William Hepburn farmer and his family also in Kilmalcolm.

Mrs. Semple was born in 1811 and no Mr. Semple is in sight. I suspect that this is an entirely different family.

Carol

scottishMisty · Post by **scottishMisty** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:56 pm

Hi all
I will need to go and get Jane Caldwell (Semple) death cert and that will tell me if jane was married to Alexander
I have found a Jean Caldwell death in Kilmacolm between 1871 1nd 1881
so once I get more credits that is the first one I will order

Cheers Jan

rayza · Post by **rayza** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:01 am

Hello, new to this site, and noticed your discussion regarding Semple from Kilmalcolm. My research into my Kirkwood line shows a William Semple married to Margaret Kirkwood around 1716? and settling in Craigieboal, in the Kilmalcolm area. All of my Kirkwoods were from Kilmalcolm, and were stonemasons. They migrated to Australia in 1838. Wondering if there was a connection.

Regards

Ray Feeney.

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