Bigamy

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:06 am

Hi all,

I am trying to find out more about my great great aunt's bigamous marriage, particularly her punishment and trial details.

Mary Hyslop Carson married Charles Edward Kidd in 1896 in Irvine, Ayr, and then in 1905 married Andrew Fleming in Blythswood. In 1906 she was convicted of bigamy, as per the RCE attached to the second marriage registration, but I can't find a record of it at the NAS. Is there somewhere else which might hold a record for this, even a newspsper report would be interesting.

Thanks,

Nina

PS, the names on this query might be familiar to some here, as I had researched them on a different matter before.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:42 am

hi Nina
THe RCE probably mentions a court date - that might help a little in searching newspapers like the Scotsman: there appear to have been quite a few bigamists!

If we can narrow it down a little, I'll have another look.

Best wishes
Lesley

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:04 pm

Hi Lesley,

It says "In the court of the Sheriffdom of Lanark held at Glasgow on the 21 September 1906, Mary Carson or Kidd was convicted of the crime of bigamy...." and was dated at the end on September 26th of that year at Glasgow.

Her first husband was Charles Edward Kidd and the one she committed bigamy with was Andrew Fleming.

Thanks,

Nina

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:34 pm

Grat thanks Nina - will look again later, unless anyone else beats me to it. At work just now...

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Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **joette** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:00 pm

"bigamy the poor man's divorce"

I am sure a couple of mine have done it just never been caught or they buried their spouse under the patio.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:42 pm

Hi Nina
I'm not seeing anything obvious in the Scotman. They only seem interested in the wealthy or landed bigamists, I'm afraid, or those who have committed other crimes in addtion to their bigamy, or if it is a "Remarkable" or "Curious" case!

Best wishes
Lesley

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:22 am

Resurrecting this old thread....and thanks to Lesley for trying to find out anything. I was hoping there might be more information out there somewhere?

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:39 am

hi Nina
Have you tried the Glasgow Herald, now available on Google books? I'll go see if I can find the link, if Currie doesn't beat me to it!!

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=G ... 7&b_mode=2
Best wishes
Lesley

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:47 am

Yes Lesley, I did try the Herald but nothing was coming up...not sure if that was due to my search parameters or not.

Thanks for the quick reply!

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:27 pm

Hello Nina,

The search facility rarely works very well on the Google News Archive, you have to browse to the issue and read through it.

It’s in the Glasgow Herald, Sep 22, 1906, on page 10, near the top of the last colum. (page 10 is duplicated, one may be better than the other - to copy it, zoom in as far as it will go, do a print screen and paste into something)
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=G ... =frontpage

BIGAMY IN GLASGOW.
A respectably dressed woman named Mary Carson or Kidd, 3 Garden Street, Kilmarnock, was charged at the Justiciary Court Buildings, Glasgow, yesterday—before Sheriff Fyfe—with having, while the lawful wife of Charles E. Kidd, Chicago. USA, and he being still alive, on August 10, 1906, at 36 Hutcheson, Street, Glasgow, bigamously married Andrew Fleming, Garden Street. An agent who appeared on behalf of the woman said when she was very young she was acquainted with the man Kidd, who ultimately married her. They left for America together, but even on the voyage out he ill-treated her. In December, 1896, he deserted her in New York, leaving her without money or any means of support. Her father had to send money to bring her home. Her husband had sent her no money since she got to this country. Nine years later this man Fleming asked her to marry him. He knew of the previous marriage, and he (the agent) understood he knew also that Kidd was still alive. They thought that as it was so long since Kidd deserted her that she was free to marry again. There were no children of the first marriage nor of the second marriage. Mr Brander (Fiscal) said the information he had was to the effect that it was the woman who left her husband. The Sheriff said so far as he knew from the information before him there seemed to be nobody interested with any inclination to visit punishment upon accused. In the whole circumstances he did not feel inclined to send her to prison. He would dismiss her with an admonition.

Better check my typing against the image, some bits are a bit fuzzy.

Hope that helps,
Alan

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