Davie,Moir, McHardy

elaine davie · Post by **elaine davie** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:00 am

I am researching my husbands family tree who lived in St Nicholas and Old Machar area of Aberdeen.

John DAVIE m Mary McHARDY 1874 (second marriage for John)

They had 3 children James Alexander DAVIE, Mary Jane DAVIE and Catherine DAVIE. Mary died in 1881 and in the 1891 Census Mary Jane and Catherine were listed at Nazareth House and Industrial School. John and James Alexander came to Australia (not positively confirmed yet).

I cannot find any death or marriage for Mary Jane and Catherine nor can I find them coming to Australia.

Is there any records that I could apply for for their time at Industrial School/Nazareth House. Hoping for some help. Elaine Davie

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:31 am

elaine davie wrote:I am researching my husbands family tree who lived in St Nicholas and Old Machar area of Aberdeen.

John DAVIE m Mary McHARDY 1874 (second marriage for John)

They had 3 children James Alexander DAVIE, Mary Jane DAVIE and Catherine DAVIE. Mary died in 1881 and in the 1901 Census Mary Jane and Catherine were listed at Nazareth House and Industrial School. John and James Alexander came to Australia (not positively confirmed yet).

I cannot find any death or marriage for Mary Jane and Catherine nor can I find them coming to Australia.

Is there any records that I could apply for for their time at Industrial School/Nazareth House. Hoping for some help. Elaine Davie

Hi Elaine,

Sorry no info for you but just to save confusion Catherine and Mary Jane were at Nazareth House in 1891. Were they still there in 1901?

Regards,
Annette

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:59 pm

Hi Elaine,
Welcome to Talking Scot! [talkingscot]

By playing with the free search function Scotland's People, I find:

Mary Jane Davie married Charles _______in Aberdeen city in 1900

I've tried plugging in the possible surnames I find in the 1901 census of possible couples, and come up with nothing that matches... Just wondering if you had looked at that marriage and found it was not your Mary Jane.

All the best,
Sarah

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:08 pm

SarahND wrote:Hi Elaine,
Welcome to Talking Scot!

By playing with the free search function Scotland's People, I find:

Mary Jane Davie married Charles _______in Aberdeen city in 1900

I've tried plugging in the possible surnames I find in the 1901 census of possible couples, and come up with nothing that matches... Just wondering if you had looked at that marriage and found it was not your Mary Jane.

All the best,
Sarah

Hi Sarah,

I had a look and it's Booth.

I think I found them in 1901 and she appears to have been born at Kincardine - so on the surface it doesn't look likely to be her.

Regards,
Annette

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:33 pm

Oh well...

thanks for looking, Annette!

Regards,
Sarah

elaine davie · Post by **elaine davie** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm

Thanks Annette and Sarah for your help. I have corrected the census date. It was 1891 that Mary Jane and Catherine DAVIE were at Nazareth/Industrial school. I purchased the marriage certificate for the Mary Jane Davie you mentioned but it was the wrong person. Can you tell me about the free search on Scotlands people that you mentioned. I find it costs me a lot to view entries that I discover aren't mine.

Regards Elaine

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:38 am

Hi Elaine,
It certainly does look as though the two girls left Scotland-- perhaps someone can find them in Australia, since that would be the likely direction they would have gone.

By "free search" I simply mean the (somewhat tedious) changing and narrowing down of all the different fields, starting with wildcards in the name and gradually filling in letters, clicking "search" after every change until you are satisfied that there is at least one plausible result (in this case a Mary Jane Davie marrying in Aberdeen City between the 1891 and 1901 censuses). After that, I just kept plugging in common male names with no result until I tried Charles

Then I tried the surnames that I found in the 1901 census on Ancestry for a Mary Jane of the correct age born in Aberdeen. Needless to say, I can't see the actual results, so don't know if I have found the right person. If this were my family, I'd just do a wide search up until I had a page of results (25) and then download them for one credit-- a lot easier! But since I can't afford to view the actual results for everyone I try to help on TS, I use this time-consuming search method instead! Hope this is clear

All the best,
Sarah

elaine davie · Post by **elaine davie** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:35 am

Thanks Sarah

I think I will do as you suggest and work a bit smarter.

Elaine

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:26 am

Hello Elaine,

Nazareth House Industrial School is listed on this page as “Aberdeen Industrial School for Roman Catholic Girls, Nazareth House, Claremont, Holburn, Aberdeen.”
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/ ... land.shtml

There’s a history of Industrial Schools here
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/IS/

In the Aberdeen Weekly Journal there were only a couple of short articles regarding girls being sent to Nazareth House. Both were cases where mothers were forced to work and the kids were wandering about and getting into strife. I saw one report of a mother getting into trouble with the law for helping her daughter to escape. There were annual reports to Parliament on these institutions but the site appears to be asleep at the moment.

The Institution appears to have been operated by the Poor Sisters of Nazareth who had similar establishments all over the UK. Maybe they still have the records from the time you’re interested in. The phone book has them here Poor Sisters of Nazareth, Tel: (01224) 584016 - Nazareth House 34 Claremont St, Aberdeen, AB10 6RA.

A search at the National archives advanced search http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/sear ... abled=True doesn’t bring up anything specific to Aberdeen. You could check the 1880-1900 period with a search for Nazareth House as a phrase to see if there’s anything useful there.

What part of Australia do you believe the family went to?

Alan

elaine davie · Post by **elaine davie** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:50 am

Thanks Alan. I have looked through the Aberdeen Journal and it was great reading. I did send an email once to Nazareth but got no reply but it is aged care now I think.

John Davie b. ca 1817 married Elizabeth/Jane Moir and then Mary McHardy. Mary McHardy died in 1881 leaving John with three children - James Alexander, Mary Jane and Catherine.I have just learnt today that John DAVIE and James Alexander DAVIE came out to Australia disembarking at Brisbane on the 'Merkara' on 6 April 1888. A son George (our ancestor) from his first marriage came to Brisbane with his family in 1884. John died in 1892 and James Alexander in 1940. I haven't been able to find that the two girls came to Australia.

Kind regards Elaine

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