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Post by Tracey » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:18 pm

For absolutely no reason (because i know it !) i did a search for the marriage of my James Donaldson and Isobel Moggach (Isabel ect)

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If i do a search for Isobel (or Isabel) Moggach - Marriage - Scotland - it comes up with the result in 1802.
If i do the same search with James Donaldson there are no results for this marriage but then if i go back and put the marriage year in the search it comes up :?
Results that appear are both in the IGI if that makes a difference.
Just wondered why this happens ?
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by paddyscar » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:07 pm

Hi Tracey:

I can't get on to IGI at the moment, despite having tried several logins.

Part of the explanation is just that it IS the IGI! :)

I rather think that there may be some error in their index, or in the transcription of James' name, which may result in too many hits for display. By adding in 1802, you are narrowing down the results list, so making it available for display.

I'll try again later to see if I can narrow it down, but IGI/Ancestry products like to give you 'more' so a lot of their indexes and their practices would not fly in other informational databases.

That's why you often go through a list, and wonder how something so far off what you entered, pops up!

This also (in my opinion) creates a rich impression of 'We've had xxx million hits/matches/entries/records' - this is seen when you find 5 or 6 entries for the same gr-gr-grandfather in a results list.

Frances
John Kelly (b 22 Sep 1897) eldest child of John Kelly & Christina Lipsett Kelly of Glasgow

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Post by Tracey » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:09 pm

Thanks Frances.

Your not alone in not being able to get on the site, its been like that for the past hour or two for me.
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Re: Family Search - search

Post by nelmit » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:34 pm

Tracey wrote:For absolutely no reason (because i know it !) i did a search for the marriage of my James Donaldson and Isobel Moggach (Isabel ect)

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If i do a search for Isobel (or Isabel) Moggach - Marriage - Scotland - it comes up with the result in 1802.
If i do the same search with James Donaldson there are no results for this marriage but then if i go back and put the marriage year in the search it comes up :?
Results that appear are both in the IGI if that makes a difference.
Just wondered why this happens ?
Hi Tracey,

I tried it both ways and got a result both times. :?

Regards,
Annette

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Post by Tracey » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:59 pm

Hi Annette

Just double cheked to make sure im not going mad :wink:

A bit extreme but………………..

My search for Isobel Moggach / Marriage / Scotland without year or spouce name turns up a result

Results for: Isobel Moggach [refine search] [Print]
Marriage, Scotland
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 4
International Genealogical Index - British Isles

1. ISOBELL MOGGACH - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Marriage: 21 MAY 1859 Botriphnie, Banff, Scotland

2. ISABEL MOGGACH - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Marriage: 27 NOV 1802 Rathven, Banff, Scotland


3. ISABELLA MOGACH - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Marriage: 20 DEC 1862 Elgin, Moray, Scotland

4. ISOBEL MOGGACH - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Marriage: 23 MAY 1812 Huntly, Aberdeen, Scotland

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 4
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Same search using James Donaldson doesn’t :? (please tell me its not here !)

Results for: James Donaldson [refine search] [Print]
Marriage, Scotland
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 74
Ancestral File

1. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 15 Jun 1849 Bothwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland

2. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 7 Jan 1825 Paisley, Rnfrws, Sctl

3. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 3 Dec 1880 Northmuir, Kirriemuir, Forfar, Scotland

4. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 27 Apr 1787 Abernethy, Perth, Scotland

5. James Lindsay DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 1 Jun 1894 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

6. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 31 Dec 1921 St Patricks, Glasgow, , Scotland

7. James Young DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 16 Mar 1835 Dundee, Angus, , Scotland

8. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 4 Aug 1815 Govan, Lanark, , Scotland

9. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 14 Jul 1865 Clarkston, New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland

10. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 1 Jan 1792 St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

11. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 26 Sep 1726 St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

12. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 27 May 1781 St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

13. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 10 Oct 1784 St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

14. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 16 Nov 1733 St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland

15. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 22 Jul 1738 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland

16. James Robertson DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: Abt 1876 , , Ayr., Sct.

17. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 27 Jan 1822 Lanark, , , Scotland

18. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: Abt 1759 Of, , , Scotland

19. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 22 Oct 1836 Kilsyth, Stirling, Scotland

20. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 3 May 1845 Kilsyth, Stirling, Scotland

21. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 30 Mar 1806 Methven, Perth, , Scotland

22. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: 1 Nov 1839 Methven, Perth, , Scotland

23. James DONALDSON - Ancestral File
Gender: M Marriage: , , , Scotland

Matches: Ancestral File - 23

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International Genealogical Index - British Isles
24. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 JAN 1710 <, Clackmannan, Scotland>

25. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 APR 1834 Of Barony, , Renfrew, Scotland

26. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 29 SEP 1729 Of, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

27. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 JUN 1742 Aberdalgie, Perth, Scotland

28. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 MAR 1732 Ceres, Fife, Scotland

29. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 04 JAN 1834 Perth, Perth, Scotland

30. James Donoldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 30 MAR 1805 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland

31. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 DEC 1658 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

32. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 30 JUN 1834 Girvan, Ayr, Scotland

33. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 28 FEB 1761 Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, Scotland

34. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 23 OCT 1719 Borthwick, Midlothian, Scotland

35. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 08 MAY 1720 Creich, Fife, Scotland

36. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 APR 1810 North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

37. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 18 JUN 1779 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

38. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 APR 1810 North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

39. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 07 JAN 1753 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

40. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 30 JUN 1836 Slains, Aberdeen, Scotland

41. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 30 JUL 1728 Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland

42. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 NOV 1839 Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland

43. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 13 SEP 1850 Peterhead, Aberdeen, Scotland

44. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 19 JUL 1831 Cullen, Banff, Scotland

45. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 OCT 1851 Cullen, Banff, Scotland

46. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 02 OCT 1777 Marnoch, Banff, Scotland

47. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 14 JUL 1770 Fordyce, Banff, Scotland

48. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 NOV 1781 Fordyce, Banff, Scotland

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - over 25

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Pedigree Resource File
49. JAMES DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 8 Dec 1871 , BELLSHILL, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND

50. JAMES DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: May 1852 , NEW MONKLAND, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND

51. JAMES DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 27 Jan 1822 , LANARK, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND

52. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 5 Dec 1809 ,Tranent,East Lothian,Scotland

53. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 5 Dec 1809 ,Tranent,East Lothian,Scotland

54. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 22 Apr 1836 Tranent,East Lothian,Scotland

55. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 22 Apr 1836 Tranent,East Lothian,Scotland

56. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 20 Feb 1809 Tranent,East Lothian,Scotland

57. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 20 Feb 1809 Tranent,East Lothian,Scotland

58. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 15 Jun 1849 Bothwell, Scotland

59. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 15 Jun 1849 Bothwell, Scotland

60. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: abt 1748 ,, Scotland

61. James J. Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: Glasgow,Scotland

62. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: Jul 1837 New Monkland,Lanarkshire,Scotland

63. James Lindsay Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 1 Jun 1894 Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

64. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 31 May 1655 Tillicoultry, Clackmannan, Scotland

65. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: abt 1759 of, Scotland

66. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: Jul 1837 New Monkland,Lanarkshire,Scotland

67. James DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: abt 1655 Of Tillicoultry, Clackmannan, Scot

68. James DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: abt 1655 Of Tillicoultry, Clackmannan, Scot

69. James DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: abt 1655 Of Tillicoultry, Clackmannan, Scot

70. James DONALDSON - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: abt 1655 Of Tillicoultry, Clackmannan, Scot

71. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 24 Nov 1810 Inchinnan,Scotland

72. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 2 Dec 1864 Paisley,Scotland

73. James Donaldson - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Marriage: 1 Feb 1694 Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland

Matches: Pedigree Resource File - over 25

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Web Sites
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Go back to same search James Donaldson and put the year 1802 and bingo !

Results for: James Donaldson [refine search] [Print]
Marriage, 1802, Scotland
Exact Spelling: Off
Matches: All Sources - 7
International Genealogical Index - British Isles

1. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 NOV 1802 Rathven, Banff, Scotland

2. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 24 APR 1802 Abdie, Fife, Scotland

3. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 01 MAY 1802 Newburgh, Fife, Scotland

4. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 26 DEC 1802 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

5. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 19 SEP 1802 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland

6. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 15 OCT 1802 Alva, Stirling, Scotland

7. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: About 1802 Of, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 7

What am doing wrong if it works for you ?
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by WilmaM » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:07 pm

I got:
Results for: James Donaldson, Marriage, Scotland, British Isles
Exact Spelling: Off
[refine search] [Print]
Prepare selected records for download

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 200+
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. James Donaldson - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 JAN 1710 <, Clackmannan, Scotland>
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27. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 13 NOV 1716 Rathven, Banff, Scotland

28. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 NOV 1802 Rathven, Banff, Scotland


29. JAMES DONALDSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 SEP 1790 Aberlour, Banff, Scotland
Wilma

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Post by Tracey » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:13 pm

So we are getting different results :? ?
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by nelmit » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:17 pm

I see what you mean on the page where it says all sources 74 (that's just what's shown on that page and your right it isn't there :lol: ). But if you scroll down to the bottom of the IGI list and click on over 25 it gives over 200 hits.

Same with Pedigree resource file although it shows 25 there are actually 56 results. Only the first 25 results of each category are shown on that page and they add up to 74.

Regards,
Annette

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Post by Tracey » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:33 pm

#-o Easy when you know how !

Should take more notice ( :shock: echos the ghost of old school reports there :lol: )

Many thanks
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by WilmaM » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:36 pm

I just use the IGI search page :

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

Not the full Family Search 'All Resources' search.
Wilma