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Miss Poohs
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Would Someone Please Check

Post by Miss Poohs » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:34 pm

this for me?

I've been looking up the Beaton side of the family, and I've found a frustrating wee mystery.

Would someone be willing to double check this for me as I can't seem to get to the bottom of it - woods and trees spring to mind.

OK - I have found several birth certs for the Beatons and on each if the birth certs it states that the parents marriage was 19th October 1858, Glasgow but I can't find the marriage cert in the relevant search.

The parents are Donald Beaton and Mary McLean. I've tried allsorts of combinations but I still can't find it.

I'd really appreciate a check if anyone has the time.

Many thanks.

Janice.
Beveridge, Bonnar, Burns,Candlin, Colquhoun, Dewar,Graham,Hislop,Jackson & Robertson.
Martin & Nelson - all Liverpool
Allison, Beaton, MacLean, McLuskie & Todd.
Grant, McEwan, McLean & Syme.

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Post by JustJean » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:00 pm

You're not the only one coming up empty handed! Yes the BC's give the info but like you I'm just not finding it. I wonder if perhaps they were wed irregularly and just never had it recorded? Assuming you've veiwed all the children's births and the marriage date remains consistent throughout then that would be my next assumption.

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by daj » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:21 pm

Yip -- I'm only getting blanks too. I also can not find a death certificate for Mary. It's often easy to find a females death certificate as you can search using both her married and maiden name. Very odd.

A long shot, but you are confident the marriage is Glasgow, UK and not Canada for the marriage?
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Post by nelmit » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:34 pm

daj wrote:Yip -- I'm only getting blanks too. I also can not find a death certificate for Mary. It's often easy to find a females death certificate as you can search using both her married and maiden name. Very odd.

A long shot, but you are confident the marriage is Glasgow, UK and not Canada for the marriage?
Hi David,

There is one death in the right area in 1891.

Regards,
Annette

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Post by rye470 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:37 pm

Janice,

The only thing close that I can find is a Donald Beaton to Janet McLean in 1863 at Greenock. This is the only marraige of a Donald Beaton to any McLean between 1855 and 1933 on SP in that general area.

There were a couple of Mary McLeans to Beatons but the closest in date was 1876. This was a Mary McLean to Allan Beaton in the Gorbals.

Could either of these be them and a 'mistake' made on the birth certs. :?

There are only 27 marraiges registered for a Beaton to a McLean/MacLean between the above period. Let me know if you want any details of the others.

Christine.
Fyfe,Binnie,Stewart,McEwan -Fife, Perthshire, Clackmannanshire.
McFarlane,Reid - Dunbartonshire.
Alexander,Dawson,Hamill,Kennedy,McCulloch - Donegal,Down, Armagh to Renfrewshire,Lanarkshire.

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Post by daj » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:07 pm

nelmit wrote:
There is one death in the right area in 1891.

Regards,
Annette
Well spotted Annette. Different spelling of McLean but I downloaded the certificate and it is indeed her. It notes her husband as Donald and he was the one who was the informant -- I see he could not write and simply placed an X
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Miss Poohs
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Post by Miss Poohs » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:34 pm

Hello again.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all, you know what it's like - the here and now just gets in the way, anyway thank you for the replies.

I have both Marys (1891) and Donalds (1896) Death Certs, and I've also had a look on the 1871 census and found them living in Govan, with their name being spelt Beatton.

It would appear both Donald and Mary were born in Tiree.

Still haven't got a handle on their Wedding Cert though - odd isn't it?
Beveridge, Bonnar, Burns,Candlin, Colquhoun, Dewar,Graham,Hislop,Jackson & Robertson.
Martin & Nelson - all Liverpool
Allison, Beaton, MacLean, McLuskie & Todd.
Grant, McEwan, McLean & Syme.

deano
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Post by deano » Fri May 01, 2009 8:21 pm

Hello Miss Poohs,

Your Donald Beaton, his wife Mary McLean, are to be found in Govan, in the 1861 census, under the surname Beatson. Both there ages are a few years out, especially Donald, he is only 27 years, when he should in fact have been about 32 years.

I also believe Donald Beaton, was born on the Isle of Mull, and Mary McLean, was born on the Isle of Tiree.

I think you will find Donald, in Tobermory, the Isle of Mull, in 1841, and 1851.

The surname McLean, and its variations are well known on the Isle of Tiree.

Its also not strange that Donald, and most likely Mary, could neither read or write because there was little education on the Western Isles, during the period concerned.

You also state you have both death certificates for Donald, and Mary, do they reveal their parents names, ie is Donalds, mother Catherine McKinnon. is Marys, father named John.

Regards,
Jonn.

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Post by Miss Poohs » Fri May 01, 2009 10:49 pm

Hi Deano

Mary died 21 Oct 1891, aged 57. Her parents were John MacLean (farmer) and Sarah Cameron.

Donald died 25 Nov 1896, aged 58. His parents were Donald Beaton (fisherman) and Christina McGilvray.

I've never been to Tiree but I've always fancied a visit - maybe nows the time :)
Beveridge, Bonnar, Burns,Candlin, Colquhoun, Dewar,Graham,Hislop,Jackson & Robertson.
Martin & Nelson - all Liverpool
Allison, Beaton, MacLean, McLuskie & Todd.
Grant, McEwan, McLean & Syme.