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Ann In the UK
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Post by Ann In the UK » Thu May 21, 2009 9:27 am

Hi everyone,

Sorry this is so long.

I'm heading up to Scotland next week on ancestor hunt. My main objective is to knock down (or at least chip away a bit of ) my brick wall re my 3x great grandfather, William Carrick. I'm heading to Edinburgh primarily, but will go anywhere I need to to get past him!

I know very little about him - no birth record, no death record, but I've rounded up as many clues I can think of:

In the 1851 census (in Rothesay - the only one in which he appears) he's listed as a labourer, aged 41 (it looks like 21, but that'd mean he fathered his eldest son, Hugh, when he was 11!) giving an approximate birth year of 1810.

On my 2x great grandfather's marriage certificate (1875) he's listed as a fisherman. (worth bearing in mind William died when my 2x great grandfather was tiny, so this could either be an indication of how he died, or just a guess as to his father's occupation)

On his wife's death register (1873) he's listed as a farm labourer.

The family moved about quite a bit, they lived in the Muirhouses in Pollockshaws/Govan for a while (c1840), as well as on the Shirvan/Castleton estate in Lochgilphead (c1845), and in Balfron (c1843) and Strathbungo (c1848). But Rothesay appears to have been where they were living when William died (see below).

On one of his wife, Flora's parocial aid applications (made years after he'd died), she claimed he was born in Auchinloch and, that they were married in Glenmavis (their marriage register lists them in Barony parish, which may have covered that area at the time). She also suggests he'd "died in Glasgow twenty years ago" - giving an approximate date of death between 1852/3, which fits in with what I already know (that he was alive in 1851, dead by 1861, but doesn't appear in the STAT death regs from 1855-61. I can't find him in the pre1855 OPRs either, unfortunately)

I'm not certain what religion, if any, this part of my family practiced. I had assumed it was CofS, but I can't be certain. The only child for whom I have a birth register is Hugh, the eldest. After that, none of them appear in the registers. I'm starting to think they may have become members of one of the break away churches after his birth (1840), but which one? Flora was a MacMillan, so I suppose it's possible they went with the McMillanites/Cameronians, but I'm aware there are several others they may have chosen - needle in a haystack unless there's a database in Edinburgh which contains them all. Yes, I know, wishful thinking :roll:

I already have a short list of possible searches I could try, but wondered if anyone else could think of anything I may have missed. I would really appreciate any suggestions.

Best wishes,
Ann

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Post by LesleyB » Thu May 21, 2009 12:27 pm

Hi Ann
starting to think they may have become members of one of the break away churches after his birth (1840), but which one?
The obvious one if you suspect it occurred just after 1840 would be the Free Church; the Disruption occurred in 1843.

If any of the children married in Scotland after 1855, the marriage entry may give you a clue as "according to the forms of the........church" will be mentioned in the first column.

Best wishes
Lesley

Ann In the UK
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Post by Ann In the UK » Thu May 21, 2009 12:51 pm

Ok, thanks Lesley. have moved that to top of the list!

Don't think any of the children married in Scotland, but will check that out also.

Best wishes,
Ann

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Post by Currie » Thu May 21, 2009 1:29 pm

Hello Ann,

You’ve probably seen this a thousand times and you’ve eliminated the possibility.

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, April 8, 1853
DEATHS – At 66 George Square, on the 6th inst., Mr William Carrick, –
Friends will please accept of this intimation.

This fellow looks suspiciously like he had a third daughter named Isabella, who married the next year, a Mr. Martin of Melbourne.

All the best,
Alan

Ann In the UK
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Post by Ann In the UK » Thu May 21, 2009 1:38 pm

Sadly, Alan, William Carrick appears to be the John Smith of Scotland!

I think that one may have been the victualler of the pub in the Square. There's also an accountant, several labourers, a few miners, and at least one coroner all of whom appear to have been put on this earth at the same time as my William simply to plague my research!

Thanks for your input though, as usual.

On a side note, I've just been looking at old posts. can someone please confirm that the names Ewan and Hugh are interchangeable in Scotland?

And does anyone know the address of the new family history/reseach centre in Fort William?


Best wishes,
Ann

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Post by AndrewP » Thu May 21, 2009 6:32 pm

Ann In the UK wrote:And does anyone know the address of the new family history/reseach centre in Fort William?
Hi Ann,

Lochaber Archive Centre

All the best,

AndrewP

Ann In the UK
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Post by Ann In the UK » Thu May 21, 2009 6:42 pm

That's the one! Came across that link ages ago, but couldn't for the life of me remember where I'd saved it, or what the place was called!

Thank you!

Ann

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Post by AndrewP » Thu May 21, 2009 8:06 pm

Ann In the UK wrote:That's the one! Came across that link ages ago, but couldn't for the life of me remember where I'd saved it, or what the place was called!
To be found on TalkingScot.

http://www.talkingscot.com/links/libraries.htm

All the best,

AndrewP