help needed again

[Justjan]

hi
i am a bit stuck again , i have a Carson sometimes Castle Crawford born Ireland , he married Grace Harvey 1822 Paisley Middle ,
found 3 children Alexander born around 1826 , Archibald around 1835 and Elizabeth 1840 ,
i know Grace Died and Carson remarried ,
also Archibald he married twice , dont need him , just Alexander and Elizabeth , can anyone help me find out when and who they married ,
getting no where in LDS ,
thanks loads
jan

[LesleyB]

Hi Jan
As the combinatations of first and last names is not a very unusual one then this is likely to be quite a long job without knowing a little more about the people.

- They may not have married
- They may have died before they reached an age where they might have married
- They may have left for England/America/Australia
- and if they did marry you'll have a lot of choices for spouses if you do not know who they married.

A search in IGI for a marriage of an Alexander Crawford 1842-1862 in Scotland returns 85 results. Elizabeth Crawford 1855-1875 returns 142 possible marriages, so you can see it is not going to be an easy task.

Have you followed them as far as you can forward through the census years ; first, to see if they make it to adulthood, and also when they are last seen "at home"? That should help narrow down the date possibilities.

Sometimes it is better to start by searching for deaths on SP if you know they made it past 1855 to find out who they married, as the one thing you do know is when they were born. If you can find the correct death, with the correct parents, then the spouse, if there was one, is likely to be mentioned on the death entry. Searching for deaths may also not be very fruitful for this pair though as there will be many people with those names, I think.

- When did Carson remarry? Are any of his children there as witnesses?
- When did Carson die? Are any of his children the death informant?

Tracing forwards in time is usually far more difficult than tracing backwards, unless your person has a distinctive name or an unusual middle name.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Justjan]

thanks Lesley
will need to go dig out some info , Carson remarried a woman with an unusual name Marina or something ,
not certain , but either Alexander has had a Daughter Eliz , or Eliz the Daughter has i think married John Jamieson , and they could be the parents of William R Jamieson born around 1890 in Scotland, and this is my connection with RI ,
i think - hope , will go try SP ,
thanks

[LesleyB]

Jan
You need to do this in logical steps:

If William R Jamieson b. abt 1890 in Scotland is a definate realtive to you, then you need to search for HIS birth. His birth will give you his parents names and their marriage date (on the assumption they were married, it is not always the case)

Once you have their marriage date from the birth document, then you search for THEIR marriage. Once you have found the marriage you will have the ages of the couple and the names of both sets of their parents and so on.... you need to work backwards in time, step by step, with solid evidence to work with at each step. This is a far more accurate way to work, and a much cheaper way of doing things , as a lot of the guess work is taken out of the equation.

Best wishes
Lesley

[nelmit]

hi
i am a bit stuck again , i have a Carson sometimes Castle Crawford born Ireland , he married Grace Harvey 1822 Paisley Middle ,
found 3 children Alexander born around 1826 , Archibald around 1835 and Elizabeth 1840 ,
i know Grace Died and Carson remarried ,
also Archibald he married twice , dont need him , just Alexander and Elizabeth , can anyone help me find out when and who they married ,
getting no where in LDS ,
thanks loads
jan

Hi Jan,

I know it's not always right but according to the 1851 census at ancestry Carson was born at Paisley. Only Archibald is with them in 1851.

Regards,
Annette

[Justjan]

yes annette
i thought he was the only one, till i checked this part , as sometimes carson came over as Castle , i am getting there the Jamiesons seemed to have all just been born here , so think all living ones must have gone to USA ,and lots of them ,be a bit bad luck for them all to not marry or all die ,
still checking a few bits

Castle Crawford
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: High Street
Occupation: Labourer
Parish Number: 644/1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Castle Crawford 35
Grace Crawford 35
Alexander Crawford 15
Arch Crawford 6
Elizabeth Crawford

[nelmit]

Ok I see them in 1841, Castle born Ireland. So my guess would be that Elizabeth died between 1841 - 1851. Alexander is certainly old enough to have left home by 1851.

Lesley has given you some sound advice to try and cross check if this family is defintely yours.

Regards,
Annette

[Justjan]

yes trying to do this now , even with the middle names going no where fast ,
the Elizabeth isnt a Crawford , but odd their is a Janet Crawford and her Daughter living at the same addy ,
and odd so does the William R Jamieson , they arent related to Cameron ,
so must be the Crawford side

[nelmit]

Is it the family at Lochwinnoch you are trying to link with RI and the Crawfords?

Got work in the morning so I'm off to bed.

Regards,
Annette

[Justjan]

sort of Annette
my Mothers Brother went to RI , and he has down uncle and the add and its a William R , the one i found is the only one from Scotland , and with the Crawford being on same census wonder can it be the same family ,
as its not the Cameron side , i have a big Family Tree of them in USA ,
who knows about Stewarts ,which would have been great had it been that side ,
but looks more like the Crawfords , if it makes sense ,
i must get off here , i have a wedding next Sat , abroad and i am not even ready , i leave on Wed ,so i must move myself , think this is taking my mind off the flight lol