Neilson/Anderson Drummond/Mcgregor

[Rob Graham]

Hi All,

This is my first posting so please forgive me if I haven't worded this very well.

I am trying to trace my fathers family and have so far come up with the following:

Isaac Neilson married Agnes (Cullen) (later Agnes McPherson) Both died before 1885

They had at least one Son called William born 1862

William Neilson married Martha Anderson (born 1862) in 1885

Children: Agnes/Martha/William/Walter/Mary/Bella/Andrew

William Neilson married Martha (or Margaret) Drummond in 1907
( Marthas parents were William Drummond & Margaret (Mcgregor)

William & Martha had at least one daughter, Martha born 1909

Martha Neilson married Thomas John Graham (from Belast) in 1926

Thier children were [all born after 1926]

I would love to hear from anybody who reconises any of the above history or who could offer any further information.

Many thanks in advance Rob Graham

[post edited to removed names of those born after TS cut off date of 1908/9. Lesley B. See Essential Reading viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6601]

[LesleyB]

Hi Rob
And welcome to Talking Scot.

IGI also has a son Walter b. 1860 at Shettleston, Lanarkshire to Isaac and Agnes.

As the couple appeared to have married in 1860 in Scotland, (again on IGI) then that would be worth downloading from Scotlands People as their ages, occupations, address at time of marriage and parents names will be given. This will help you find their births and help you track them on the census data, all of which will provide you with more information.

Best wishes
Lesley

[AndrewP]

Hi Rob,

ScotlandsPeople gives the following for you to download:

1860: marriage - Isaac Nelson (note spelling) to Agnes Cullen
1860: birth - Walter Neilson
1861 census
1862: birth - William Neilson
1862: death - Isaac Neilson
1868 (married 1867, registered 1868): marriage - William McPherson to Agnes Cullen
1868: birth - Mary McPherson
1869: birth - Ann McPherson
1870: death - Ann McPherson
1871 census
1871: birth - William McPherson
1871: death - Agnes McPherson
1879: birth - Andrew McPherson (son of William and housekeeper [apparently Agnes's sister])
1881 census
1881-1891: births (at least 5 of; all to Mary Cullen?)
1891 census

All the best,

AndrewP

[Rob Graham]

Thanks for the replies so far.
I think I may have found some further info relating to Agnes Cullen.

Her Father was William Cullen born 1813 her Mother Mary Haggen born 1819.
Both of them lived somewhere in England before moving to Lanark Old Monkton.

1851 census (Scotlands people) shows the following:

William 38 Born England
Mary 32 Born England
Agnes Cullen 10 Born Lanark Old Monkton
John 8 Born Lanark Old Monkton
Richard 5 Born Lanark Old Monkton
Elixabeth 3 Born Lanark Old Monkton
William less than 1 Born Shettleston

Will keep you posted once I find out more.

Thanks again
Rob

[nelmit]

Thanks for the replies so far.
I think I may have found some further info relating to Agnes Cullen.

Her Father was William Cullen born 1813 her Mother Mary Haggen born 1819.
Both of them lived somewhere in England before moving to Lanark Old Monkton.

1851 census (Scotlands people) shows the following:

William 38 Born England
Mary 32 Born England
Agnes Cullen 10 Born Lanark Old Monkton
John 8 Born Lanark Old Monkton
Richard 5 Born Lanark Old Monkton
Elixabeth 3 Born Lanark Old Monkton
William less than 1 Born Shettleston


Will keep you posted once I find out more.

Thanks again
Rob

Hi Rob,

The 1841 and 1861 show William senior born at Lanarkshire. William and Mary Hodgson had a daughter Mary in 1855 at Shettleston. A look at her birth entry should show where her parents were married and also their exact places of birth.

MARY CULLEN Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
18 JUL 1855 Shettleston, Lanark, Scotland

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CULLEN Family
Mother: MARY HODGSON

Piece: SCT1841/652 Place: Old Monkland -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 2C
Civil Parish: Old Monkland Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Crosshill
Folio: 6 Page: 3
Address: Society Row

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CULLEN William M 25 Coal Miner Lanarkshire
CULLEN Mary F 20 England
CULLEN Agnes F 6m Lanarkshire

Regards,
Annette

[Rob Graham]

Thanks again for the info.

On another website it shows Isaac Neilson and Helen Mckay's birth as Govan colliery, do you think that this means they were born at the colliery? Maybe there was some sort of medical unit there?

Rob

[LesleyB]

Hi Rob

On another website it shows Isaac Neilson and Helen Mckay's birth as Govan colliery, do you think that this means they were born at the colliery? Maybe there was some sort of medical unit there?

Back then, you did not tend to go into hospital or a "medical unit" to have a baby; you gave birth at home, or as often happens with a first child, if not too far away, you went back to your mother's, no doubt for moral and physical support and to benefit from the experience that your mother had from having her own children.

Best wishes
Lesley

[apanderson]

Rob,

I think you might have transcribed Old Monkland as Old Monkton?

A few post up, there is an entry for 'Society Row', Crosshill. Crosshill is part of Baillieston and was in the district of Old Monkland Western.

Anne

[Jake Drummond]

Do you have a place of birth for Margaret Drummond?

[Rob Graham]

Hi,

Born July 1887, Place of birth was New Sneddon in Paisley.

She married a William Neilson in 1907.
In 1919 she became Margaret Livingstone and died in 1954 from extensive burns.

Cheers Rob