birth records

[hg]

Is it my imagination that there has been a post on here with instructions on how to trace children using parents names only on ScotlandsPeople? I have been trying to find it for the last half hour, just want to make sure I am not wasting my time. Hope this makes sense!
all the best
Helen

[AndrewP]

Hi Helen,

The parent search to find children is a feature of the IGI rather than ScotlandsPeople. The only place it sort-of works on ScotlandsPeople is in the birth/baptism OPRs. In there, you need to input the surname of the child as a minimum. However, you can also input the parents' names and try to find a family group. However it does depend on the parents' names being spelled consistently or your use of wildcards to catch spelling variations.

All the best,

AndrewP

[hg]

Thanks Andrew. So I was sort of right. I thought I was going mad. I usually use SP or ancestry.com for my reseach. What is the best site for IGI searches? The family I am looking for are parents Andrew Sinclair and Elizabeth Kelly, I know they had 9 children because of my research on Margaret Sinclair (one of their children), she was born 1900 so opr's are not relevant. There is lots of information on the internet about Margaret as she was made venerable by the Catholic Church.
all the best
Helen

[nelmit]

Unfortunately you can only do a parent search at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... search.asp up until 1875.

What you can do is a death search at SP using the surname only and the mother's maiden name. They have 3 children in 1901 that you know about so a search as stated for birth year 1910 +/- 10 years gives 4 results. It will cost 1 credit to look at the index and from that you can perhaps work out if they are from the correct family.

Hope that makes sense.

Regards,
Annette

[hg]

Yes, it made sense Annette. Just looked, no luck though. Thanks for the tip. will remember that for the future.
all the best
Helen

[puffin]

You might also get those children born before 1901 in the 1901 census......and then there is the 1911 census data which is to be accessible from the 100 year limit......ie 27th March 2011, now less than a year away.

Puffin

[hg]

Thanks Puffin. Yes, I already have three children in 1901, I have found a fourth mentioned on one of the stories about Margaret in the internet, though I can't find his birth yet. I look forward to seeing the 1911 census, and not just for this family.
all the best
Helen

[nelmit]

Thanks Puffin. Yes, I already have three children in 1901, I have found a fourth mentioned on one of the stories about Margaret in the internet, though I can't find his birth yet. I look forward to seeing the 1911 census, and not just for this family.
all the best
Helen

Reading through her story finds John and Isabella (who are on the 1901 census). The only other one mentioned is Andrew - is that the one? According to her story he went to Canada. I don't have access at home to check passenger lists but maybe that would be a way to find his birth year.

Regards,
Annette

[hg]

Thanks Annette. I have just found a link on the internet with a photo of the family. I would seem that Andrew and Elizabeth had six living children. They are named in the photo as, Margaret, Lawrence, Andrew, Bella, Lizzie and John. I think I might contact St Patrick's Church! I don't have access to the passenger lists at home either.
all the best
Helen

[Currie]

Hello Helen,

"By the time Margaret came to say good-bye to her family, Bella had already entered the Little Sisters of the Poor. She travelled down to London with her brother, Andrew, to another parting, for he was emigrating to Canada.
She stood dressed in her best, a lonely figure on Tilbury Dock, waving his ship good-bye. Then she caught the tram to Notting Hill. It was the twenty-first of July I923. The extern sisters welcomed her, and took her to the parlour where she met Mother Felix."
http://www.poorclarestmd.org/sister-mar ... wounds.htm

The free Ancestors-on-Board index has an Andrew Sinclair b.1902 departing London for New York in 1923. http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/

The Free Ellis Island site (There’s no problem downloading the manifest etc images using Firefox) has the following. http://www.ellisisland.org/

Manifest p1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004
Manifest p2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004

Sailed from London 21 July 1923
First Name: Andrew
Last Name: Sinclair
Ethnicity: England, Scotch
Last Place of Residence: Edinburgh, Scotland
Date of Arrival: Aug 01, 1923
Age at Arrival: 21y
Gender: M
Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: President Adams
Port of Departure: United States
Manifest Line Number: 0004
Born Edinburgh, Father Andrew, 13 Blackfriars St. Edinburgh, destination Philadelphia, to join a cousin J. Rankins, 127 Lehigh Ave, Phila. Pa. etc etc etc

There’s also what looks like an earlier voyage with much the same information, same destination but cousins particulars not very clear. Age on that would make his date of birth around November 1901, Edinburgh.

First Name: Andrew
Last Name: Sinclair
Ethnicity: Scotland
Last Place of Residence: Edinburgh, Scotland
Date of Arrival: Jul 01, 1923
Age at Arrival: 21y 7m
Gender: M
Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: President Adams
Port of Departure: United States
Manifest Line Number: 0022

Hope that's him,
Alan