Anyone know anything about Eaglesham?

[sheilajim]

Hi All,

My GGGGrandfather, a shoemaker, is listed on the 1861 census as living at 8 Mongomery Square in Eaglesham. I used Google maps, street view ,and found what looks like a very old small house at that address. I was really excited with this find, but now I wonder if this is too good to be true. Is is possible that this is the very same place that my GGGGrandfather lived? Are the houses from that time period, or even older, still standing and if they are what are the chances that the address would be the same? Is there is anyone acquainted with Eaglesham on Talking Scot?

Regards

[Anne H]

Hi Sheila,

How exciting! Looks like it's a listed building.

You might be able to get more info by contacting the locat studies of East Renfrewshire here...
http://www.eastrenfrewshire.gov.uk/heri ... =undefined

It's also mentioned here...
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/20 ... ry+square/

Regards,
Anne H

[speleobat2]

Hi Sheila,

Since I live in Alabama and have never been to Eaglesham, I can't answer your question, but I had relatives living at Garden Cottage, #3 Montgomery Square around 1925! When I found this out I did some googling and found an article about the historical commission trying to save some of the houses in Eaglesham. I don't have the article, but I think I was just doing a general search for Eaglesham.

Do you know if later generations of your relatives stayed there after 1861? Would be fun if your relatives and mine were saying "Hello" to each other when they were out walking later on!

Carol

[nelmit]

Hi All,

My GGGGrandfather, a shoemaker, is listed on the 1861 census as living at 8 Mongomery Square in Eaglesham. I used Google maps, street view ,and found what looks like a very old small house at that address. I was really excited with this find, but now I wonder if this is too good to be true. Is is possible that this is the very same place that my GGGGrandfather lived? Are the houses from that time period, or even older, still standing and if they are what are the chances that the address would be the same? Is there is anyone acquainted with Eaglesham on Talking Scot?

Regards

Yes it is most likely the same house. Eaglesham is a conservation village.

Regards,
Annette

[WilmaM]

Eaglesham is a conservation area, so the houses are all very old and any new ones have to look old too!

So that building you found will be the one mentioned in the census,
unless they altered the street numbers at some stage.

Comparing the present day street and the 1856 map shows very little change in the buildings
http://www.nls.uk/maps/os/25inch/renfrewshire.html pick sheet XVII.14 (Eaglesham)
zoom in on the bottom about a quarter in from the right -
Montgomery Square was /is round the south and west sides of the church and graveyard.
So the original house will still be there and very little altered on the outward appearance.

Incidentally it's pronounced Eagles-ham not Eagle-shum as the traffic guys insist!

[LesleyB]

Hi Wilma

Incidentally it's pronounced Eagles-ham not Eagle-shum as the traffic guys insist!

Was not aware of this. I knew someone who came from that area and they always said Eagle-shum.

Just found this web site whcih may of use for other pronunciations too!
http://www.rampantscotland.com/features/pronounce.htm

Best wishes
Lesley

[SarahND]

H Just found this web site whcih may of use for other pronunciations too!
http://www.rampantscotland.com/features/pronounce.htm

Very helpful, but a word of caution for those who speak another English than the English of England. The words that the author uses to illustrate how to pronounce the Scottish place names must be pronounced as they would be pronounced in England, not as in Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand, etc. so it is a two-step process to get to the actual pronunciation... I would rant about how easy it would be if it were put in phonetic transcription instead, except I know that is not clear to everyone either. The best thing would be to have a sound file so when you click on the name you can hear a local saying it. Would use a little more memory on the site, but would be worth it, I think!

All the best,
Sarah

[joette]

Never ever heard it called Eagles ham always always Eagleshum(without a break or breath by preference).

[SarahND]

The link Lesley found says:

Eaglesham
Pronounced "eagle-sam" as if the 'h' was not there, the name of this village south of Glasgow also has French origins - the 'ham' or village of the 'église' or church.

Is it a "sh" or "s" in your pronunciation?

Regards,
Sarah

[apanderson]

This thread will probably encourage a barrage of various different pronunciations of villages and towns up and down the country!

I was recently explaining that Camelon (on the outskirts of Falkirk) has two distinct ways of being pronounced .......

Cam-e-lon (as in King Arthur's Camelot) and Kame-lon.

As for Eaglesham - I'm with Joette - it's Eagles-shum for me and always will be!

Anne

P.S. It's Kame-lon for me too!