Aberdeen Journal

[innjess]

In the issue of 25 November 1812 the Marriage of my maternal GGGrandfather, Samuel George Carter was announced as having taken place in Sunderland, Co: Durham in England. In the report it was stated that "...Samuel George Carter, 16th regiment of foot, (of Mary Anne Clarke's celebrity) to Miss Browne....". Presumably, this is the same Mary Anne Clarke who was the future King of England's mistress, who was involved in the selling of Army commissions.
What intrigues me is the expression "of Mary Anne Clarke's celebrity", and why the report of a marriage of a lowly Lieutenant should be reported as far away as Aberdeen.
Any views gratefully accepted!
innjess

[Currie]

Hello Innjess,

I couldn’t find another newspaper that mentioned the wedding, let alone bring the Clarke woman into it. It makes you wonder whether Samuel arranged to have the newspaper notice inserted himself or if someone else, well meaning or otherwise, arranged for it to get there.

There was also a notice in “The Monthly Magazine”, published 1812. According to that Miss Browne was the daughter-in-law of Lieut. Col. Vernon, also of the 16th foot. I’m not sure how that works. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=C2e ... 22&f=false

The Samuel Carter of Mary Anne Clarke celebrity was a player in the scandal of the decade, or perhaps one of the scandals of the decade. He was Mrs Clarke’s foot-boy, actually more of a footman, but she called him that not because he was a boy, but because he was short. You can read all about it in “Authentic and Interesting Memoirs of Mrs. Clarke“, published 1809. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Cgc ... &q&f=false

Search for Carter in the box to the left to find where he is mentioned. The whole book would probably be a good read.

All the best,
Alan

[Currie]

There’s a notice in the Glasgow Herald as well, 23 November, page 3, top of 2nd column. It’s the same as the Aberdeen Journal. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=G ... page&hl=en

Alan

[innjess]

Thanks for your help, Alan. According to the 1841 England and Wales Census and the 1851 Channel Islands Census Samuel George Carter's wife, Isabella Louisa Roase nee Browne was born about 1798, which would make her about 14 at the time of the Sunderland marriage in 1812.How, therefore she could be a daughter-in-law to Lieut Col Vernon escapes me! Something doesn't ring true, which is not too surprising! Surprisingly (again) although I have been able to find out that Samuel died in Jersey in 1858, I can find no formal record of Isabella's death.
innjess

[SarahND]

Hi all,
The term daughter- (or son-) in-law used to mean what we would now call a "step" child. So now you have to find the marriage of her mother with Lieut. Col. Vernon!

Cheers,
Sarah

[innjess]

Thanks, Sarah,
...now to work that out!
I posted the earlier reply before reading Alan's link, which led me to read about the relationship between Mary Anne Clarke and Samuel Carter - definitely - or as definite as one can be!- he was my GG Grandfather, bearing in mind he was in the 16th Foot from about 1804 onwards, retiring as a Lieutenant Colonel in 1854. For interest, other children were in the Army as well -Charles Jeffries Carter, William Scott Carter, Vernon Brabazon Dean Carter (the "Vernon " connection?), Samuel George Carter (Junior) and Harcourt Campbell Carter. So - plenty to work on.
Exciting stuff!
innjess

[Currie]

Hello Innjess,

Here are some odds and ends.

The Morning Post, Saturday, March 13, 1858
DEATHS.
CARTER.—On the 7th ult., at Carlton House, Bagot, Jersey, Lieut.-Col. S. G. Carter, late of the 16th Regt., in the seventy-second year of his age.

Also in the Army List.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=j-k ... 22&f=false

The Morning Chronicle, Thursday, April 8, 1858
DEATHS.
On the 2d inst., at Carlton-house, Bagot, in the 61st year of her age, Isabella L. H. Carter, relict of Lieutenant-Colonel Carter, late 16th Regiment of Foot.

Also in the Gentleman’s Magazine
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=OS8 ... er&f=false

Will and Testament of Samuel, wife’s third name given as Howe which matches the newspaper notice.
http://www.jerseyheritagetrust.jeron.je ... 9&LIMIT=50

This’ll be your Lieut. Col. Vernon, the 16th Foot were in Canada in 1814, War of 1812.
Major Brabazon Dean Vernon. Born 1768; Major in 16th Foot 27 June 1805; commanded 16th Foot 1807 to 1808; brevet Lieutenant-Colonel 30 December 1811; died September 1814. http://www.napoleon-series.org/military ... hFoot.html

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth), Monday, May 6, 1811
MARRIED.
On the 18th Feb. at Paramaribo, Surinam, Major Vernon, 16th Regt. to Miss Brown, eldest daughter of H. Brown, Esq. Ballirabellist, Cork.

Hope that helps,
Alan

[innjess]

Alan that's just marvellous! Thank you so much for your help - I only wish I had your skill and expertise in finding out these facts.I notice you are in Australia - anywhere near Geelong?
innjess

[Russell]

Hi Innjess

There are many on TalkingScot who wish they had Alan's skill at digging out these elusive scraps and sources. We all appreciate his willingness to delve into a problem to help out a member and often comes up with the most amazing discoveries. Thanks Alan

Russell

[innjess]

With the marvellous help I got from Alan, I spent some time soaking up all the items sent to me - inevitably, I am left with one query (so far!). The marriage of Brabazon Dean Vernon and Isabella L H Brown took place on 18 Feb 1811 in Surinam, and the marriage of Samuel George Carter and Isabella L H Brown took place on 2 November 1812 in Sunderland. I suppose it is not altogether that she married Samuel Carter under her maiden name rather than the name she would have taken from her first marriage, but what does surprise is that Brabazon Dean Vernon died in September 1814, roughly two years after her second marriage!
She was, certainly, very, very young if one takes the records as correct.
innjess