Pumphill in Carmunnock

[shaigh]

Anyone know anything about a parcel of land called Pumphill or Pump Hill. It features in a sasine from the late 1700's but I cannot find any reference to it on a map.
Any help appreciated
Sue

[Currie]

Hello Sue,

It’ll probably turn out to be something that sounds like pumphill but is more commonly spelt another way.

The only thing I’ve found so far that’s remotely Scottish is this definition of Pumphill Burn in “Celtic Place-Names in Aberdeenshire” being “Burn of the penfold for cattle. Pund, pen; fauld, Scotch for fold.” http://archive.org/stream/celticplacena ... 8/mode/2up

I doubt that’s much help,
Alan

[AndrewP]

If it is 'pump', then there are references to water pumps in Carmunnock Conservation Village leaflet. Some of these were in the street, others were in gardens of houses. See pages 10 and (articles 4 and 7).

All the best,

AndrewP

[Alan SHARP]

Greetings Sue.

Two questions.

#1 1700's Sasine - but where, Renfrewshire / Ayrshire where a lot of your research is?
#2. Which maps have you consulted ? There are some excellent ones for Scotland, if you get the right map, and the right zoom scale. Many of the countryside habitations carry their local identifying names, marked upon the map. [No RAPID numbers in those days] I presume, not all would have made their way into indexes?

I know when I did the Clynder research [Dunbartonshire] for a start, I thought the map was no help, because I had the wrong scale. When J CAMPBELL sent back a refined image, I was blown away with the detail, and have since found the properties I was interested in, along the White Cart which, in that time period, was the divide between Renfrew and Lanarkshire. [PM me if you wish.]

Alan SHARP.

Edit: Apologies Sue. When I got notification of "currie" Alan's post I spotted, for the first time, the word Carmunnock in the title. Had been away a couple of days so was skip reading through the TS posts - great to see activity on the forum increasing again.
Carmunnock is more SHARP teritory, than RUSSELL's.
Long day tomorrow from 5.15 am untill after 11pm so may be a day or two, but I will dig out the maps I found so helpful, and have a gander over named dwellings thereon in Carmunnock. See if any thing turns up.

Alan SHARP.

[Currie]

There was a large machine called a Pump Mill that was used for raising water, draining marshy ground etc. It could be powered by wind, water, steam or whatever was available. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=3JE ... ll&f=false

Any chance the word is Pumpmill rather than Pumphill?

Alan

[Alan SHARP]

Greetings Alan across the ditch.

You may be on to something there. Not only were there Lanarkshire bog areas that needed drainage, there were coal mines. We have, in NZ, some very good examples of the Cornish Beam Pumps, and I presume the engineers in Scotland were manufacturing a lot of that kind of machinery.

Alan SHARP.

[Russell]

It takes the southern hemisphere to come up with brilliant ideas outside the box =D> =D>

Russell

[Hibee]

Carmunnock stands at the end of a 600 foot high ridge. Their problem would be more likely related to getting water than to disposing of it.

Hibee

[shaigh]

Thanks for all the help everyone - lots of ideas to work on. Pumphill/Pumpmill?? The writing isn't all that good!
A new Sasine recieved today describes the land as having some houses on it and being bounded on the east by the Glasgow Rd , on the west by the yard belonging to Robert White/Whyte, on the north by the Mairns- Cambuslang Rd and on the south by the Kirkyard dyke. This seems to put it slap in the middle of carmunnock somewhere but I still can't find aany reference to it on a map.

Sue

[Hibee]

Sue

Is it possible that Carmunnock refers to the parish, rather than the village, of Carmunnock? In which case it would includes Busby and the White Cart Water, an area which has more mills than you can shake a stick at, and coal engines, etc. Plus the Mearns Rd and the Glasgow Rd pass through, and there is a churchyard.

Have a look on this map.. http://maps.nls.uk/atlas/thomson/view/? ... &pdesc=Top section

Hibee