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momat
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Researching in England

Post by momat » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:00 am

I will be in U K later this year and hope to be able to knock down a couple of brickwalls in Yorkshire,
but what is the best way to approach this.
Do I have to buy a readers ticket , book a time or something similar to search the registry and archives .
All my searching has been on line until now so am a novice in this area. [help] [help]
Maureen

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Re: Researching in England

Post by Hugo » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:37 am

If you don't get the information here then I suggest you post on the Genealogists Forum.

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Re: Researching in England

Post by LesleyB » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:54 am

Hi Maureen

I think it may depend on what specific area(s) of Yorkshire you have in mind - see the Genuki page for some pointers as to what there is in each area. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/
If you can give us specific areas we may be able to help more - Yorkshire is pretty large!!

If planning a trip to an archive, library or FHS it will probably pay off to contact them in advance to find out things like opening hours, if you have to order items in advance or establish if you need to bring any ID with you for a "readers ticket" or similar.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Re: Researching in England

Post by momat » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:04 am

Hi,
The area I am looking at is the East Riding of Yorkshire.The district is Myton , Hull , Kingston upon Hull.
I know the dates of what I want to find just need clarification on how to access the information.
I had previously (some years back) requested data from the registry concerned but nothing was found
and I think that one death I want was not recorded in the BMDs for some reason.
Another Certificate I bought was the wrong person.
Just hope that I can maybe come across something new !!!!!
Grateful for any directions here.
Maureen

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Re: Researching in England

Post by LesleyB » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:59 am

Hi Maureen

OK, so Hull. http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_p ... ema=PORTAL
may be of use. There appears to be an online catalogue.

Am I correct in thinking that it is a death in particular that you wish to search for? Or are you interested in other info too?
If it is a only a death you are looking for the local registry office would be the place to go I think.
Hull Register Office
Municipal Offices
181-191 George Street
Kingston on Hull
HU1 3BY

I'm assuming you can visit this Office to make enquiries but I kinda suspect there will not be facilites to actually search the records. Can you give us some idea of the year the death occurred? Is it very recent or historical?
Also see:
http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_p ... ema=PORTAL
Hull registration service at The Wilson Centre can supply you with copies of most of the certificates that were originally issued in the Hull or Sculcoates Districts.

Find out more about requesting copies of birth, death or marriage certificates

To make it even easier, you can view most of the indexes for the Hull and Sculcoates areas online at Yorkshire BMD so you can order many of the certificates you need without even leaving home.
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
What about burial records? Have you explored this option? (again, depends on the date...more modern deaths may involve cremation)
http://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/dis ... cords.aspx
Should you wish to view these records, we ask that you contact us in advance to book an appointment. When doing so, please make sure that you specifically ask for the use of a microfilm reader.
The original records of the 4 municipal cemeteries are held at the Crematorium on Chanterlands Avenue. You must book an appointment in advance should you wish to view the records held there. Their contact details are at the end of this leaflet
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The Parish registers for the Church of England burial grounds in Hull are held at the East Riding Archives Service in Beverley. Hull City Archives has some monumental inscriptions for these. They include the Drypool Burial ground on Hedon Road and St Peters and St Mary’s. We also have all of the East Yorkshire Family History Society’s published monumental inscriptions for Hull and the East Riding.
Beverley is not far from Hull, about 10 miles or so - you can take a train or a bus.
Hull Crematorium on Hedon Road was opened 1901. A further crematorium was opened at the Northern Cemetery on Chanterlands Avenue in 1961. Records for both are held by the Crematorium on Chanterlands Avenue.
Local newspapers may also be a source of info.

This Genuki page may be useful:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ER ... index.html

Best wishes
Lesley

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Re: Researching in England

Post by momat » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:34 am

Hi Lesley,

I am looking for two deaths c 1913 .
One I previously requested from the Registrar some years ago was not found and it looks like it may not have been recorded so that is a BIG problem.
She was my great Grandmother aged 43/45 at time of death and last recorded on the 1911 census in this area with family.
They had been there since 1888 and I have lots of other data for family in this area.
The other I need to look at is the Birth and Death 1911/12 -1913 of her grandson,my Uncle.
There are possible entries on the Yorkshire BMDs for him that I want to look at.

I will look at the sites you posted.

Thank you.
Cheers,
Maureen

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Re: Researching in England

Post by LesleyB » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:58 pm

Hi Maureen
If you have not done so already, if you can mention your gr grandmother's name (the death which you are having difficulties with), it may be that some of our members who are used to searching the English BMD indices may be able to help. I would not have thought that by that date (c.1913) there would be deaths which were just not registered. On the surface of it would seem more likely that there might be an indexing or transcription error perhaps.

With regard to the second death you mentioned; that of your uncle as a baby, when I have contacted a registry office in England a few years back (it was Manchester) they were very helpful and were able to confirm from the details I was able to give (e.g. full name, occupation etc - in your case parent names) that I had the correct Smith death before I ordered it from them - with that surname, as you can imagine, there were quite a few to choose from in the correct time frame and correct area!!

Best wishes
Lesley

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Re: Researching in England

Post by Isabel H » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:10 pm

Have you considered that your great grandmother may not have died where you expected her to be? I have several relatives who for various reasons died away from home and family. You may need to widen your search.

Names can be misread and therefore wrongly indexed. Could any of the letters in her name have been mistaken for something else? For example handwritten capital I and J are similar, as are L and S, small g,r, and z can be confused.

They can also occasionally be missed out of an index, despite having been registered. Try looking at the alternative transcriptions of the indexes offered on various websites. By doing this, someone recently found for me a person for whom I had long searched in vain. It turned out that they had been omitted from the official index, but they had been included on another website's transcript.

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Re: Researching in England

Post by garibaldired » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:19 pm

Maureen,

There's a local family history group who might be able to help you:

www.eyfhs.org.uk/

Best wishes,
Meg
Main family lines are Harpers from Midlothian, Fife & Kinross-shire, and Dobies/Dobbies from Midlothian. Also Strathearn, Stobie, Layden and Downie.

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Re: Researching in England

Post by mulberry » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:38 pm

Hi Maureen I like the advice you have been given about contacting local resources however if that is not convenient for you I may be able to help by approaching your query from another angle. I subscribe to "Find My Past" which has found most of my English based ancestors I think I have a few credits left and if you care to give your ggrandmothers name and date of birth and same for your uncle I could try to find them for you.
rachel
McFeeters Ireland Scotland, Baillie.Finlayson Scotland England, Carey,Young, Fiskin, Scotland, Cooksley Somerset and all ultimately Glasgow