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Ted
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Field Jock

Post by Ted » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:25 am

Hi Everyone

This is a bit of a strange one - one of my great uncles emigrated to the US in 1911 and I am having great trouble tracking him down. His name was John Allan Bn 1891 in Aberdeen - at one time he lived with his sister in Barre, Vermont US and I have it from family folklore that she called him 'Field Jock' as he was a wee bit simple / daft (please forgive the very un-PC terminology - but this was the ancerstors' expression not mine).

I have recently been informed by an elderly and very distant connection in Canada (Aberdeen ex-pat) that the 'Field' part is inaccurate and that there was a similar sounding word in Aberdonian slang meaning 'fool'. But she cannot recollect what the word was:-

Any suggestions as to what this might be - or where I could find out?

Thanks lots

Ted
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fmackay
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Post by fmackay » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:14 am

Hi Ted
I think It's pronounced FEEL but not sure if that's how you would spell it.
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Post by mitchell » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:11 pm

Hi Ted,
At last, something that I can help with
Fiona is right, it would be 'feel'

'Feel', n, a fool adj. foolish

Ah've kent mony a feel here in Aiberdeen
:D

Elaine :D
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Aberdeen help

Post by nelmit » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:05 pm

Hello Elaine,

Any chance you could help me too?
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5896

Annette M

Apologies for highjacking your post Ted. :)

Ted
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Post by Ted » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:14 pm

Nae bother Annette. Elaine & Fiona thanks fur giving your Aberdonian twang to this queery - I can just hear it now !!!

'Feel' it is - thanks lots

Ted
Looking for Allan / Gordon / Troup / McInnes / Grant / Taylor / Jackson from Aberdeen (city & shire) & Banffshire
Alexander / Allan / Stewart in W Lothian
Allan / Burnett in USA and Canada / Davidson & Philp in Fife and Lanarkshire

Davie
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Post by Davie » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:52 pm

Ted,
Ah had a few kids (early twenties) steyin’ wey me ower the week-end.
They were doon frae the fawr north eastern wilderness, for a concert here in the civilised World.
Had a bit of difficulty unnerstaunin’ ther verbal
Mind you, ther Faither never could grasp the Queens English as it wiz spoke either.
He is frae Peterheid.
Efter the show, wan o’ the lassies stated ( before this, I had to put up with the fact that Robbie Williams should be in Mount Olympus) “Ahm fer forfockin"
One has to watch ther P's and Qs oan this site, never mind ther O's and U's
Had to use all of my Glaswegian decorum, not to ask what that meant.
I pass that to you for an explanation.

Davie
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Ted
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Post by Ted » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:04 pm

Davie

"Ahm fer forfockin" - I gie near chockit on ma wallies when ah hert that yin - weans eh!! It mibbie means "I find that particular young man somewhat attractive" is they wid say in Embrra!

Cheers

Ted
Looking for Allan / Gordon / Troup / McInnes / Grant / Taylor / Jackson from Aberdeen (city & shire) & Banffshire
Alexander / Allan / Stewart in W Lothian
Allan / Burnett in USA and Canada / Davidson & Philp in Fife and Lanarkshire

Davie
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Post by Davie » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:23 pm

Ahm fer forfockin" - I gie near chockit on ma wallies when ah hert that yin - weans eh!! It mibbie means "I find that particular young man somewhat attractive" is they wid say in Embrra!
Hi Ted
I have known these kids all their lives, and the odd thing is, that when I visit them in ther ain midden, (Stonehaven these days) they are understandable
However, when they came down here, with ther pals, I had to do.
"Hawd oaon a meenit, ah speak English, no Doric"
The reply wis
"Who's Derick"
I kid you not.
Davie
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Ted
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Post by Ted » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:32 pm

Hi Davie

Brilliant !!

Ted
Looking for Allan / Gordon / Troup / McInnes / Grant / Taylor / Jackson from Aberdeen (city & shire) & Banffshire
Alexander / Allan / Stewart in W Lothian
Allan / Burnett in USA and Canada / Davidson & Philp in Fife and Lanarkshire

Davie
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Post by Davie » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:48 pm

Hi Ted
I edited that post, but I am sure you got the gist.
It was great to have the weans visiting Glasgow.
It was the first time they had been down here without the parents, and they had a ball.
I am interested in the so called "Mither Tongue"
But have no idea what it actually is.
I don't have the Gaelic, but will start a wee topic and see what comes up.
Awrabest
Davie