I read the maternal mother's surname as McDonald , the paternal one I'm not sure about at all - Innerd ?
I got all excited - I thought that this marriage was perhaps conducted twice ? - there's an extracted entry on the IGI :
WILLIAM HASTIE
...
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY MCLOY
Family
Marriage:
23 DEC 1855 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M113425 1819 - 1856 1040076 Film 6900658 Film
Meloy could easily be indexed as McLoy.
However this appears to be an OPR ( Church of Scotland ) entry
and not an 1855 statutory registration.....
never mind..
Sally
Advice regarding uploaded file yesterday
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Kath
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Oh my gosh, what a wonderful group you are, and thank you for the welcome. I have been a lurker for so long.
I agree with you Sarah and Andrew, Lesley and Jean. I reckon, from the census, they were all born Ireland.
Carol I have not found them yet in 1851 just the ones after that but will have a peek tomorrow.
Sally that is an interesting thought, I had not considered, partly because they appear to be Irish Catholics. I thought the first entry in 1855 was a bann with a mis-spelling, and you are right about all the different spellings, this tree has been a nightmare, and not even mine, but a gift for my daughter in laws gran for her 80th birthday, on 6th December, and she only gave me six weeks notice. Starting with a Peter SMITH. Yikes!
I did get the will for this William HASTIE, but forgot about the death entry. Too much hurry.
Apologising again, for having you all go half blind, I just this minute got the death certificate, and the mother maiden name for William Hastie is DISNEY clear as anything, and does not look anything like the marriage entry.
There is another Hastie family in the area who are possibly connected as they all seem to move in and out of each other's houses in the different census.
I also think the Margaret looks like a Mc something. From lurking to a long winded post. I thank you all very much for your ideas and help. I need to find the death for William Hastie's wife, and will let you all know. Many, many thanks, Kath
I agree with you Sarah and Andrew, Lesley and Jean. I reckon, from the census, they were all born Ireland.
Carol I have not found them yet in 1851 just the ones after that but will have a peek tomorrow.
Sally that is an interesting thought, I had not considered, partly because they appear to be Irish Catholics. I thought the first entry in 1855 was a bann with a mis-spelling, and you are right about all the different spellings, this tree has been a nightmare, and not even mine, but a gift for my daughter in laws gran for her 80th birthday, on 6th December, and she only gave me six weeks notice. Starting with a Peter SMITH. Yikes!
I did get the will for this William HASTIE, but forgot about the death entry. Too much hurry.
Apologising again, for having you all go half blind, I just this minute got the death certificate, and the mother maiden name for William Hastie is DISNEY clear as anything, and does not look anything like the marriage entry.
There is another Hastie family in the area who are possibly connected as they all seem to move in and out of each other's houses in the different census.
I also think the Margaret looks like a Mc something. From lurking to a long winded post. I thank you all very much for your ideas and help. I need to find the death for William Hastie's wife, and will let you all know. Many, many thanks, Kath
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Hi Kath,
Mary Hastie, ms Meloy's death certificate is easily found by surname: Hastie, alternative surname: Meloy. There is only one result, and it is in Muthill (next door to Crieff) - same place as William's death certificate was issued some years earlier. Her mother's maiden surname is quite clear on that - a lot clearer than Disney on William's. I'm not convinced by Disney. I think it looks more like Dimon. The descender of "y" that you saw, I believe to be the top of the final "d" in deceased.
The online IGI shows 8 children to William Hastie and Mary Meloy from 1856 to 1872, all born in Muthill. The online IGI only shows births up to the end of 1874, so there could have been more beyond then.
The 1881 census shows both William and Mary as Irish born, with four of their children, in Muthill.
All the best,
AndrewP
Mary Hastie, ms Meloy's death certificate is easily found by surname: Hastie, alternative surname: Meloy. There is only one result, and it is in Muthill (next door to Crieff) - same place as William's death certificate was issued some years earlier. Her mother's maiden surname is quite clear on that - a lot clearer than Disney on William's. I'm not convinced by Disney. I think it looks more like Dimon. The descender of "y" that you saw, I believe to be the top of the final "d" in deceased.
The online IGI shows 8 children to William Hastie and Mary Meloy from 1856 to 1872, all born in Muthill. The online IGI only shows births up to the end of 1874, so there could have been more beyond then.
The 1881 census shows both William and Mary as Irish born, with four of their children, in Muthill.
All the best,
AndrewP
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Hi Bruce and Andrew, I also thought McEwen at first, but I have now got the death cert and it is Margaret ms McDonald, have also found the Meloy in 1851 and what appears to be Margaret's parents, so another line to track.
Andrew back to your comments on Mary and I can see you are quite right in reading Dimon. Too much hurry again, or should I say Hast ie .
LOL. Thank you I have 8 Hastie children.
I saw the 1851 Muthill entry for a Mary Demond , stoneware dealer with a son Hugh Hastie, so I got her death cert, She was single, and right age to tie in, and lo and behold, the informant William Hastie, son. So the person who said unmarried in an earlier message would appear to be correct. (Never assume, I should know better). But it does look good. I also got the death cert for the Hugh of what I think was the same one in 1851, death cert but no parents given, married to Jane Lucas, however the RCE gave Andrew Hastie as father, and mother as Jane Adams or Hastie, so probably not married. Still might be son of Mary Dimon as informant was a step son. further research may throw something up.
Sorry for rattling on, but many lessons learned here.
I have given daughter in law enough, for now, for gran's birthday, on each of her gran's ascending lines including her late husband's ascending lines, complete with enough BMD certs and census to give a fair idea of the beginnings of her gran's history.
Much to ponder and pursue, now on to the Meloys in Crieff.
Once more many thanks to all, Kath.
Andrew back to your comments on Mary and I can see you are quite right in reading Dimon. Too much hurry again, or should I say Hast ie .
LOL. Thank you I have 8 Hastie children.I saw the 1851 Muthill entry for a Mary Demond , stoneware dealer with a son Hugh Hastie, so I got her death cert, She was single, and right age to tie in, and lo and behold, the informant William Hastie, son. So the person who said unmarried in an earlier message would appear to be correct. (Never assume, I should know better). But it does look good. I also got the death cert for the Hugh of what I think was the same one in 1851, death cert but no parents given, married to Jane Lucas, however the RCE gave Andrew Hastie as father, and mother as Jane Adams or Hastie, so probably not married. Still might be son of Mary Dimon as informant was a step son. further research may throw something up.
Sorry for rattling on, but many lessons learned here.
I have given daughter in law enough, for now, for gran's birthday, on each of her gran's ascending lines including her late husband's ascending lines, complete with enough BMD certs and census to give a fair idea of the beginnings of her gran's history.
Much to ponder and pursue, now on to the Meloys in Crieff.
Once more many thanks to all, Kath.