Cartside House, Kilbarchan

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by Russell » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:20 pm

Hi Morag

In the late 1800's there was only one burial ground in Johnstone surrounding Johnstone High church. I have had a look for any Stewart burials there and none of the six recorded stones was for james Stewart. The other graveyard in the town was not opened until late 1890's I think.
This does not mean that James was not buried in the town burial ground but Lair records are not available to show all the unmarked graves in the graveyard of which there are no doubt many since Johnstone was not an affluent town at that time and my wife's ancestors have no recorded resting place either.
You mentioned Eastwood. Back then it was a part of Renfrewshire as was Neilston and Barrhead. Although it is a few miles away. Our concept of distance is quite different with cars and buses available. In 1798 Folk walked out from Paisley to Kilbarchan to attend the inaugural service of the Relief church. Shank's pony was the more usual mode of transport back then and a ten or fifteen mile walk was not unusual.
I was interested in his occupation.Teaching was quite a prestigious profession. One of my wife's antecedents was head of English teaching at Paisley Grammar School and we located a lithograph of him in a book giving the history of the Grammar School.He has a large memorial obelisk in Woodside cemetery in Paisley so he must have been highly regarded by the town.
If Robert died in 1856 which is after Statutory Registration began, does his Death Certificate state which burial ground he was buried in ? His cause of death could indicate whether he was unable to afford a memorial stone.
Using Google I think I located Cartside house https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cartside ... Kilbarchan although I don't think that is it's current name.

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by AndrewP » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:37 pm

Morag_Gunn wrote:...dies 1856 at Johnstone - family anecdote makes claim he buried "Johnstone Church Yard", but no evidence offered to support claim.
Hi Morag,

Scottish death certificates from 1855 to 1860 should show the burial place.

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by Morag_Gunn » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:44 am

Hi Andrew: I am looking at a copy of the death doc.... oops, I was wrong...it says Johnstone Church Yard... thanks.

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by Stewart55 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:09 am

Interested in the Robert Stewart Cartside House thread. Robert was my 2x Great Grandfather on my father's side. my father was also Robert Stewart. Hoping to connect with possible extended family & swap Genealogy.

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by StewL » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:41 am

Hello Stewart
[TS_welcome]
Those who contributed to this thread should get an email notifying of your post, then they will no doubt get back onto this thread. Hopefully they may have information that is useful for you.
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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by Stewart55 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:54 am

Thanks for that StewL. Stewart is one of the worst Scottish names to research. They are all over the place.

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by StewL » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:06 am

:lol: :lol: Don't I know it, when I started this addiction, I was looking from my grandfather Alexander Stewart's parents, do you know how many Alexander Stewarts are out there :lol:
I was chasing down the wrong line until it was pointed out to me, and also the advice tied in with other information I already had.
[cheers]
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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by SarahND » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:06 am

I'm still looking for the same Stewart I started with 12 years ago... Not a very encouraging example, I'm afraid! :roll: I now look for other people's families, just for the satisfaction of actually FINDING someone :lol:

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by SarahND » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:42 am

An interesting new Stewart finding: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... yalty.html

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Re: Cartside House, Kilbarchan

Post by StewL » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:05 am

What a pity that Stewart is my given name (my mothers maiden name).
So missed out again! :lol: :lol:
The Stewart surname minefield is still current, with me now trying to trace grandfathers twin's family :D
Can be expensive looking on SP for Stewart marriages, especially when taking a stab at where they might have married.
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