Hello,
I reside in the United States but have learned through my genealogical research that my paternal ancestors are from Scotland, which is very exciting to me. I am however completely ignorant to the geography of Scotland and feeling very overwhelmed trying to understand the differences between terms such as; towns, isles, burgss, shires, counties, parishes, etc. etc. Many of these terms are not used in the U.S. For example one record says my ancestor was born in Forres, Moray. Another record says Moray, Elgin. I have no idea if these are the same place. Can anyone recommend a good source (online or in book form) where I could learn to understand these things? The only thing I believe to be true are that my ancestors were from the Highlands. Common places I have come across are Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Elgin, Moray, Nairn, Foress, Braemar. (Are these all close to one another....geographically speaking?)
Any help you can provide would be most welcome.
Thank you,
Tracy
Understanding Scottish Geography
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Re: Understanding Scottish Geography
Hi Tracy
Just replied to your other post
This might help understanding the geography side of the area you are interested in.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR/Edinkillie
Thing to remembers is Morayshire, Moray and Elginshire are all the same place. Now-a-days we'd call it Moray, used to be Morayshire (think Hobbit for the Shires ;-)), alternatively it could be called Elginshire a long time ago - Elgin being the main town in Moray, a Market Town (technically a Cathedral city, just to confuse you more). Forres is about 10 miles from Elgin, and Alves is in the middle - all along the main road - A96. Moray(shire) is the County (political administrative area), as was Nairn(shire), Inverness(shire), Aberdeenshire. Nairn was the main town in Nairnshire, now absorbed into Highland Region. Parishes are administrative area associated with churches. I'm sure someone will be along with a clearer explanation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin,_Moray
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braemar
Braemar is a little further away
Hope that sort of gives you a start.
Just replied to your other post
This might help understanding the geography side of the area you are interested in.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MOR/Edinkillie
Thing to remembers is Morayshire, Moray and Elginshire are all the same place. Now-a-days we'd call it Moray, used to be Morayshire (think Hobbit for the Shires ;-)), alternatively it could be called Elginshire a long time ago - Elgin being the main town in Moray, a Market Town (technically a Cathedral city, just to confuse you more). Forres is about 10 miles from Elgin, and Alves is in the middle - all along the main road - A96. Moray(shire) is the County (political administrative area), as was Nairn(shire), Inverness(shire), Aberdeenshire. Nairn was the main town in Nairnshire, now absorbed into Highland Region. Parishes are administrative area associated with churches. I'm sure someone will be along with a clearer explanation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin,_Moray
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braemar
Braemar is a little further away
Hope that sort of gives you a start.
Maggie
Parental -
Moray, Bellie/Boharm:- Symon, Thomson, Davidson, Gordon, Laing, Dick, Thom, Geddes.
Banffshire, Rothiemay:- Lobban, Symon
Maternal -
'Finechty Flett's'
Banffshire:- Flett, Taylor, Wood, Lorimer, Falconer
Parental -
Moray, Bellie/Boharm:- Symon, Thomson, Davidson, Gordon, Laing, Dick, Thom, Geddes.
Banffshire, Rothiemay:- Lobban, Symon
Maternal -
'Finechty Flett's'
Banffshire:- Flett, Taylor, Wood, Lorimer, Falconer
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Re: Understanding Scottish Geography
You really just need a good map!
Or maps...
The National Library of Scotland are the best place to start, they have a brilliant set of old maps which overlie modern maps http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#
Or http://maps.nls.uk/
Google the place names then you can locate them and you'll soon get to know your way about. I've lived here all my life and love my country and its geography, but still need the atlas index at times!
Any specific questions do post on here, we'll do our best to point you in the right direction.
Or maps...
The National Library of Scotland are the best place to start, they have a brilliant set of old maps which overlie modern maps http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#
Or http://maps.nls.uk/
Google the place names then you can locate them and you'll soon get to know your way about. I've lived here all my life and love my country and its geography, but still need the atlas index at times!
Any specific questions do post on here, we'll do our best to point you in the right direction.
Wilma
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Re: Understanding Scottish Geography
Local Heritage services in Moray
http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp
Do keep going back every so often, there's more being added to it weekly.
Regards
Jen
Sorry Moray Lass just noticed you had pointed the way in another post but being a volunteer I like to keep reminding people about it!!
http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp
Do keep going back every so often, there's more being added to it weekly.
Regards
Jen
Sorry Moray Lass just noticed you had pointed the way in another post but being a volunteer I like to keep reminding people about it!!
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Re: Understanding Scottish Geography
Hi,
Just to add to the list of suggestions given so far:
www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk
This site explains a lot of the terms, including all the alternative historic names for Counties, Parishes etc., and has a handy search function to find placenames. I tend to use it in conjunction with the NLS site that Wilma has already provided a link to.
Cheers
Ross
Just to add to the list of suggestions given so far:
www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk
This site explains a lot of the terms, including all the alternative historic names for Counties, Parishes etc., and has a handy search function to find placenames. I tend to use it in conjunction with the NLS site that Wilma has already provided a link to.
Cheers
Ross