Golden Fleece 1885

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Carolann
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Golden Fleece 1885

Post by Carolann » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:22 pm

Hi

Can anyone help please. my husbands GGG Grandfather William Hodgson drowned 27 12 1885 on the Golden Fleece in Fly Island. Does anyone know where Fly Island is?

Can only find one reference to the Golden Fleece 1885 and one picture of it - anyone help with any further information on it. - would like to get a model of this?

Also trying to find his parents but the records on SP does not give them or his dob.

Any help would be appreciated.

Carolann
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Post by emanday » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:38 pm

This is the only reference I could find...

Fly Island is one of the islands in the Great Palm Island group. The nearest island is Great Palm Island, after which the group is named.

Fly island is a few 100 metres North West of Havannah Island. and 50 km South East of Ingham.

...and this http://www.tageo.com/index-e-as-v-04-d-m2233415.htm

Added later: This seems very relevant (see last paragraph on page) http://www.ship-modelers-assn.org/fam9804.htm
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Post by JustJean » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:22 pm

Hi Carolann

Have you any idea of where William Hodgson hailed from? Wife's name? Offspring and their names? Siblings? Approx age at death? Any little bitty further clue might help!!

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by Hugh Stevely » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:27 pm

Golden Fleece



http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/brodie/0/0/0/ ... 0698.shtml







Also a painting here on this link.

Starboard, The Golden Fleece


http://www.artnet.com/artwork/425069584 ... eecei.html

Hugh.

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Post by Carolann » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:12 pm

JustJean wrote:Hi Carolann

Have you any idea of where William Hodgson hailed from? Wife's name? Offspring and their names? Siblings? Approx age at death? Any little bitty further clue might help!!

Best wishes
Jean

hi jean

As far as i know i think he was born in Greenock. he married a margaret bryce 04/12/1854 Glasgow and was 50 when he died. he had I think 4 children, Ann, Margaret, William and Jane. I cannot trace a an actual date of birth but roughly around 1835c

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Post by Carolann » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:22 pm

Hi Emanday and Hugh

Emanday, hadn't a clue where Fly Island was but I see it is off the coast of Austrailia. Thank you for this information. Also the reference you sent was what I had read.

Hugh thank you for these links - great to see the painting.

Thanks to all of you for your input.

Ian was told when he was younger one of his anscestors was a pirate hunter!!!!!! I wonder?

Was trying to find out if all the crew drowned in 1885 - in the death record i have it showed two of the crew died.

Is there anywhere where it would tell you if all the crew died. Ians GGG Grandfather was a Steward on this boat. He was a master baker to trade.

Thanks again

Carol
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Post by emanday » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:18 pm

Hi Carol,

Does the death certificate give the ship's official number (usually under "ON")?

My Great Great Grandfather died at sea in 1899 and from his DC and the ship's official number I was able to get the crew list as well as documentation giving details of the investigation into his death.

Mine came from the Maritime History Archives on http://www.mun.ca/mha/ but they have recently announced that they cannot do any research because of an asbestos problem in their archive unit.

I understand very small percentage (10% I believe) of these crew lists are held by the National archives.
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Post by Hugh Stevely » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:24 pm

Barclay Curle. Golden Fleece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barclay_Curle


Note theThe company records of the Barclay Curle Glasgow yard from 1852-1965 are held by the University of Glasgow archives

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Post by Carolann » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:39 pm

Hi Emanday

The record from SP is a Marine Register/minor record and there is a number on it after the name of the ship. Would this be it.

Hugh

Thank you for this info.

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Post by emanday » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 pm

Mine has the column headings Name of Ship, Official Number, Date of Death, Place of Death and so on.

I'd imagine yours is the same, so that should be the right number. What is the number?
[b]Mary[/b]
A cat leaves pawprints on your heart
McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)