Dumbarton Poorhouse records.....

[Lahb]

Hi Drew, joette and christine - thanks so much for your comments, I was aware that some building still stood in the original site, but had read that, as Drew said, it was no longer the same building, or used for the same purpose.

Drew that would be lovely if you get the chance. It did confuse me when the archivist wrote back as she did, but I was just so appreciative I eventually heard back and didn't want to be rude so I sent a thank you note rather than questioning it directly - perhaps I should have - I'm still learning the etiquette of all this One day I'll get over there and be able to see all this myself, I'm quite determined as my Grandmother Isabel was born/raised there and I'd love to see where she lived.

Thanks for your help, Lisa

[Alcluith]

Lisa,

Dumbarton Library does have the records for the poorhouse from 1861-1954 but only the minutes of meetings up until 1897 and then they have information on the inmates.

The 1871 census does have details of inmates but nothing on John McFarlane, so he is not an inmate in 1871. There is no sign of John in the 1871 census for Dumbarton but I only looked around the High Street and close proximity so I could have missed him.

There is an Andrew McFarlane and family as follows:

Andrew McFarlane 33 Riveter Dumbarton
Agnes 33 Lanarkshire
Cordiella I 10 England
John A 7 Dumbarton
Helen 4 Dumbarton
William 3 Dumbarton

The naming pattern looked like your family with John & Helen, don't know if that helps.


Drew

[nelmit]

Hello again,

I'm sorry but there was no record indexed for John at The Mitchell.

Kind regards,
Annette M

[Lahb]

Hi Drew and Annette - thank you both so much for taking your time to look into this for me, I truly appreciate your efforts!!

Drew - yes, that is Andrew's family (John's son) - my great-grandfather comes along about 7 years later. Well at least I'm not going batty in terms of not finding him in 1871 Must have been on a trip maybe. I'll get him one of these days. Thanks again to you both, Lisa

[Alcluith]

Lisa,

I am curious to why Cordiella was born in England, was it because she was Andrew's daughter from a previous wife?

Do you know any more details about John's daughter Helen did she marry locally? what was her married name? was John with her in 1871 census? John would have been 65yrs and still possible still working in 71 maybe in nearby Alexandria, Clydebank or Glasgow and moved near to his work rather than travel.

[Alcluith]

Lisa

Looking on the IGI for Children of John McFarlane and Jane Davie

you come up with the following:

ISABELLA SAGE MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 SEP 1831

2. ISABELLA SAGE MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 NOV 1831 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

3. JOHN MCFARLAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 APR 1843

4. JOHN MCFARLAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 APR 1843 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

5. ANN SAGE MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 JUL 1829

6. ANN SAGE MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 AUG 1829 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

7. ANNE LANG MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 MAY 1842

8. ANNE LANG MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1842 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

9. HELEN MCLACHLAN MCFARLAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 MAR 1840

10. HELEN MCLACHLAN MCFARLAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 APR 1840 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

11. JANET MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 JUN 1833 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

12. MARGARET MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 OCT 1826

13. MARGARET MACFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 OCT 1826 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

14. ELIZA WILSON MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 FEB 1845

15. ELIZA WILSON MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 FEB 1845 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

16. JANE MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 18 MAY 1838

17. JANE MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 MAY 1838 Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland

18. ANDREW MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 JUN 1836

19. ANDREW MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 SEP 1836 Dumbarton, Dunbarton


All in Dumbarton and could be the one family, this would certainly tie in your Andrew McFarlane and Isabella Sage as John's parents. If you can find any other middle names tying into ,say Jane's mother's surname.


Hope this helps

[Lahb]

Hi Drew - Andrews daughter Cordelia-Jane was indeed born in England. Andrew McFarlane married Agnes Innes (1860) and shortly after they moved to England and can be found on the 1861 census in Northumberland. We can only speculate that maybe it was for work? They moved back to Dumbarton in time to have son John Andrew in 1864.

As for Helen, Andrews sister, IGI shows a Helen Mclachlan McFarlane born to a John McFarlan and Jane Davy (mis-spelling??) in 1840. I have yet to come across the McLachlan name in the family but doesn't mean it's not there. This person is not listed on SP as having married/died - but that is with a search of her full name - take the Mclachlan out and you've got lot's of Helens!

Thanks for the reference in your second message to the IGI's for McFarlane/Davie - I did have them referenced for future examination, but our local family history center is over 40 minutes away so getting there (with two young kids) is a bit of task. I think actually looking at the films is the way to determine if the mis-spelling is a transcription error with regards to Helen's entry. Sage is such a uniqe middle name that I'll likely try Isabella next to see if there is a link.

Thanks for your help! Lisa

[Alison Plenderleith]

Hello Lisa,

Maybe you already have Cordelia's birth details in England, but if not from the IGI:

Cordelia Jane McFarlane b. 16th May 1861 christened 23rd June 1861 St. Hildas, South Shields, Durham. Parents Adrew(sic) McFarlane and Agnes McFarlane.

Regards,

Alison

[Lahb]

Thanks Alison, I did have these, but from another site. Appreciate your time in looking that up though! Lisa