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nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:45 pm

thomsos wrote:On Thomas marriage cert. it says fathers occ - Carter, but on Thomas's death cert. it says his father was a Groom, domestic servant

thomsos

Hello again,

I'm just going out hope you're still on.

I will post the Mary Marshall / Fairley application tomorrow. Actually I was quite interested in this one as if I have the correct family then your husband shares ancestors with a friend of mine. Is the name Pinkerton in his family? Does he know of any Armstrongs?

Annette M

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:33 pm

Hi again,

Here is Mary's application.

Application for Education

Mary Marshall Fairlie 6th Nov 1883
138 Drygate

Born New Vennell
Housewife Prot. Age 35?

Husband in Infirmary

Family all in good health

George 8y 10m Born Portland Brae
John 7y 7m Born Fisher Street

William 3y 1m born Fisher Street
Thomas 10m Born Drygate

Husband John Fairlie age 27? born High Street, a porter in Bazaar had 24/- per week in Infy for 5 weeks with a broken leg. Son of William a warper and Mary Pinkerton residing George Street.

Daughter of George Marshall a basket maker and Jane Telford residing King Street, Calton.

M. 11 years ago in Bennie Pl by Rev……..Lines seen.

This woman refused to say any more is to wait till her husband comes home.
She either could not or would not give the address of her parents.

Present house 3 years.
30 Fisher Street 8 years.

If this is your husband's family I have a wee bit more on Mary Pinkerton and William as they are my friend's ggg grandparents.

Let me know.

Kind regards,
Annette M

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:23 pm

Thanks for this,
not sure if its our family, I notice that Fairley is a different spelling, will try to find a connection and get back to you

cheers
thomsos

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:24 pm

thomsos wrote:Thanks for this,
not sure if its our family, I notice that Fairley is a different spelling, will try to find a connection and get back to you

cheers
thomsos

Hello thomsos,

I know what you mean about being unsure but ....................

Here are John Fairlie and Mary Marshall in 1881

Dwelling: 6 Balmano Street
Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203645 GRO Ref Volume 644-5 EnumDist 10 Page 18
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John FAIRLIE M 27 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Van Driver
Mary FAIRLIE M 30 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Van Drivers Wife
George FAIRLIE U 6 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
John FAIRLIE U 3 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
William FAIRLIE U 9 m M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son

John says he was born in Paisley. John, the son of Mary Pinkerton and William Fairley was born in Maxwellton, Paisley in 1853. Out of interest who were the witnesses to John and Mary Marshall's marriage?

Kind regards,
Annette M

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:56 pm

Yes have this census,
Their witness's were Matthew Scott and Elizabeth Fairley, and guess what?
John Fairley's mother's name was Mary Pinkerton! what a small world

thomsos

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:58 pm

thomsos wrote:Yes have this census,
Their witness's were Matthew Scott and Elizabeth Fairley, and guess what?
John Fairley's mother's name was Mary Pinkerton! what a small world

thomsos

Hello again,

I can tell you that's a definite then

because Elizabeth Fairley married Matthew Scott and according to Mary Pinkerton they were in America by 1886.
I'll post Mary Pinkerton's poorhouse application tomorrow. I got this for my friend when I was doing her family tree as a birthday gift.

Kind regards,
Annette M

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:37 pm

Hi Annette,
That will be great, what relation is the Fairley's to your friend?

cheers
thomsos

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:05 pm

Hello thomsos,

Here is Mary's application -

Mary Pinkerton Fairley Date 10th November 1866
148 Drygate age 48 occ. Washer

Born Love Street, Paisley. Prot.
Deserted

Dependants - John age 13y born Maxwellton
Ann age 9y 6m born Rottenrow

Daughter of James Aitken, labourer and Margaret Pinkerton, both dead.
Husband- son of James Fairley, weaver and Grace McFarlane.

Non dependants - William, 26, single living in George St
Margaret, 24, married to a painter + 2 ch
Grace, 20, married to a printer in Edinburgh
June, 16, Single, servant
Elis, 14, millworker

Husband William Fairley a weaver left her 6 weeks ago.

11.3.1880 - Married in Paisley about 40 years ago.
Armstrongs seem poor.
Eliza in America married to Matthew Scott.

1886 - Husband in Causeyside Street, Paisley.

Mary died 2.11.1895 and her husband who was born in Paisley was in the poorhouse.

If you live in Glasgow it's worth going to 'The Mitchell' and viewing these records.

My friend is descended from Grace, who married John Armstrong in 1862.

Any questions just ask.

Kind regards,
Annette M

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:28 pm

Thanks Annette,
This is great

I see that Mary has her mothers maiden name Pinkerton, and not her fathers name, Aitken, did they not marry? and were in America did Eliz and Matthew go to?

thomsos

Post by **joette** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:09 pm

Interested in the Pinkertons as one of mine married a Pinkerton.
Will have a look to refresh my memory but it was around the Lanark/Paisley area & I remember she was left a young widow & then two of her boys were killed down the pit.
Will get back when I can find which rellie it was.Not a lot of Pinkertons about.