Mitchell Library Lookup Please

[GlendaT]

Re: Poor Relief Application for Margaret Pitt (nee McGee/McGhee).
Would someone do a lookup in the Poor Relief Applications for Margaret Pitt (nee McGee/McGhee). Margaret was born about 1850 in Ireland, the widow of Thomas Pitt (he died in April 1872). Margaret was residing at 17 St. Joseph's Place, District of High Church with her two daughters, Helen and Margaret. I would appreciate if you find an application, would you be so kind as to record the Reference Number so I can order a photocopy.
Thanks,
Glenda

[Rockford]

Hi Glenda,

Unless someone is going before then, I might be in the Mitchell one day next week and I'll have a look for you then.

I'll let you know if I find anything.

Best wishes

Brian

[GlendaT]

Thanks Brian, I really appreciate your help.

Regards,
Glenda

[Rockford]

Hi Glenda,

I was at the Mitchell this afternoon and found that there are two applications in the index for Margaret, both in 1872.

The first has reference D-HEW 10/2/47 for Margaret McGhee (Pitt). Her application is on page 19
The second has reference D-HEW 14/48 for Margaret McGhie (Pitt). Her application is on page 33864

To potentially save you a few pennies, I had a look at the records

The first one:

Application for Relief
No.: 78288

Hour and Date of Application: 11.20am, 4 June 1872

Name: Margaret McGhee Pitt
Residence: 17 St Joseph's Place, 1 up right
Place of Birth: Belfast, Ireland

Hour and Date of Inspector's Visit:
11am, 5 June 1872

Condition: Widow
Age: 22
Occupation: Millworker
Average Value of Weekly Earnings: [blank]
Wholly or Partially Disabled: [blank]
Disability: Pregnant

Names and Ages of Dependants:
Helen 19/12 yrs, born in 17 St Joseph's Place

Other Information to enable Parochial Board ro Decide Case. Names of Children Not Dependants, Earnings etc
Pauper is the daughter of John MacGhee, a Sawyer and Maryann Boyd, both residing at 45? Struthers Street. Husband's parents, Alexander Pitt, an Ostler and Helen Galloway are residing at 10 Graeme Street, back low.

No. of Previous Application:
First

Settlement:
Glasgow

Remarks
They were married on 15 July 1870 at 129 Barrack Street by the Revd James Pullar, Suffolk Street Church. Lines seen. rent 7/8- per month. 1 apt, no lodgers, no Society.

Signed (Asst Inspector): P Stewart

Particulars of Settlement:
In 17 St Joseph's Place, Glasgow 2 years
Prior in Sydney Street (in lodgings) 1yr 6mths
Prior in Graeme Street with father 17 yrs
See Letter? Cases Vol 44, p120 Sept 1872 [this comment is annotated under the application]

- End-

There is nothing to indicate the outcome of this application.

I'll post the second application separately, to save the length of the post!

Best wishes

Brian

[nelmit]

Well there was only about 4 people there this afternoon and one of them was me surrounded by poorhouse tomes!

Wish i had put my face on now!

Regards,
Annette

[Rockford]

Hi Glenda,

Here is the other one (DHEW 14/48)

This application is very hard to read. The pages are almost like fine tracing paper and some writing has faded dramatically and in other places, ink has bled through onto the back of a page or the adjacent pages. There are some areas I could not read and I've marked these with [....] The Inspector also seems to have a habit of running his comments together without much punctuation. I've added a few commas to help make sense of it.

Barony Parish Historical Record Book
Case of Applications for Parochial Relief

No: 33864 District No.: 2
No.: 1716

Hour and Date of Application: 12 noon, 14 August 1872
Name: Widow Thomas Pitt, Margaret McGhie
Residence: 58 Struthers Street,, Calton, F 3up
Where Born: Belfast
Condition: Children
Age: 22
Occupation: Piecer
Where Married and By Whom: Widow, 15 July 1870 in Glasgow by the Revd James Pullar. Lines seen.
Parents' Names: John McGhee, Maryann Boyd
Name of Husband or WIfe: Thomas Pitt
Wholly or Partially Disabled: Partially
Earnings: 8/- per week

Dependants:
Helen 19/12 years born 28 Nov 70 at St Joseph's Place
Margaret 2/12 born 18 June 72 at St Joseph's Place
certificates of bith seen

Other Information to enable Parochial Board to Decide Case. Names of Children Not Dependants, Earnings etc
[blank]

No of Previous Application: First
Supposed Settlement: Glasgow, by Husband's residences

Proceedings Subsequent to Pauper Being Enrolled:
August 15 Notice to Glasgow
" to 76? [......]
August 20 2/- per week, 12 weeks [amount is hard to read]
October 1st Admitted by Glasgow, 24th inst. Send home [this might be the letter referred to at end of previous Glasgow application]
October 3 Sent home as instructed

Assistant Inspector's Report
Glasgow, 12 3/4 pm, 15 August 1872

Widow Thomas Pitt, Margaret McGhee, 58 Struthers Street, Calton, 3up

She is aged 22 years born Belfast, Ireland, widow 4 mos. Protestant and Piecer, daughter of John McGhee, labourer and Mary Ann Boyd resides in Springburn. Husband Thomas Pitt, aged 23 at death, 14 April last [.....] born at Townhead, Hamilton, Protestant and Shoemaker, son of Alexander Pitt, Hostler and Helen Galloway, housewife, resides 7 Graeme Street, City B.L.R [no idea what this abbreviation means!]

Married 15 [....] 1870 in Glasgow by the Revd James Pullar. Lines seen.

Family
Helen 19/12 years born 28 Nov 70 at 17 St Joseph's Place
Margaret 2/12 years born 18 June 72 at 17 St Joseph's Place
certificates of birth seen

Residences
Present House (Wallace), Barony, 21 days
Prior 17 St Joseph's Place. 2 years
Husband in Sydney Street (Mrs Aitken) 16 years
Prior in 7 Graeme Street with parents 17 years
Hamilton from Birth

Refuse for proof of birth and residence and certified [?] birth places. To parents whom I have seen.

Applies for outdoor relief on account of children. Is a Piecer, earns 8/- per week, rent 7/6 per month 1 female lodger pays 1/- per week. Decent person, house very clean. Gave 2/- intro, Notice to Glasgow and Hamilton see Dr Report attached [it isn't!]

Settlement:
Glasgow, husband's residence

Signed: ? Hendry, Asst Inspector

Hope this information is useful to you,

Best wishes

Brian

[Rockford]

Wish i had put my face on now!

Hi Annette,

Mine had run down my face by then after being drookit on the walk from the train station . I was only in the Archives from about 12.30 to 1.30pm, then was looking at the microfilmed newspapers after lunch. I was the tall good looking one in the big white woolly jumper!!

Best wishes

Brian

[GlendaT]

Hi Brian,

The information from the Poor Relief Applications has definitely broken down a few brick walls.
I can't thank you enough for helping me out and saving me a few pennies too

Best regards,
Glenda